This Really Bugs Me!

[hillcresttiels]

Hi Guys i have noticed lately that there seem to be a few "Bird Brokers" getting around the traps on petlinks classified site , these are people who dont own or have ever bred birds, request for a specific sale from breeders with photo included, knock off a few dollars off the price and then try and sell them to others whilst your holding the birds. Then to cap it off they use your photos for other unsuspecting buyers! ???i dont know if I,m going over the top but just be wary as the purchase could be made direct from the breeders at better rates cheers

Frank

[macawvic]

Frank,

I second your sentiment. In my opinion, one should never compromise on price for a quick sale. So what if you can't sell you birds within a day. Hold onto them for a little while longer and get the price you want. Plus if you don't, you'll always have birds to breed with for the following season.

With that said, I do offer brokering and placement services to some of the larger breeders so I really should speak.

Rgds
Tim

[hillcresttiels]

Hey Tim to me it's not about the price as some members here know I sometimes give them away for a song,but more the fact that someone else is trying to fill their pockets without doing the Hard Yards, and in your case Tim it's different as you are a breeeder also cheers Frank

[AussieBirds]

Tim,
I certainly wouldn't put you in the same category as these guys as I personally know one of these bird brokers and believe me they are in it for one thing only, a quick buck and have no interest in breeding or sharing their very limited knowledge. You on the other hand know what your talking about and you are also a genuinely nice bloke.

I'm with Frank on this subject i would rather give a bird away to someone that is really interested in learning about them rather than make a quick buck.

[macawvic]

Strewth, guys. You're going to give me a big head!

Thanks, much appreciated.

[stillsqwarkin]

I read with interest all comments and felt i wanted to add to it
i have dealt with a lot of people on petlink
it is after all a very good place to be able to buy and sell your birds and i have done both
living in townsville far north qld i dont have access to a lot of bird breeders as the people who live in the southern big cities do
I have a quite a bit of dealings with a darn nice lady who is a broker out of melbourne whos details i wont put her but will happily supply to any one who is interested and have had no troubles at all the birds have been excellent i have also dealt with birdworld and have had no worries there at all except one woman who advertised on the birdworld site who was not good at all

everyone else i have brought from have been excellent and i must admid to having a rather large collection of australian natives normals that is not into different colours thats just me

the point i am trying to make albiet the long way round is that the people who do act as brookers do provide a service and after all it is peoples choice where to buy

just my little comment
sqwark

[billspets]

hello all
well i might as well my 2 cents Worth as well
so here we go
brokers like anything does have its place as long as they are legit by that i mean if they are a licensed operator like all other brokers are (land ,live stock and so on ) but the work is legit if they can show a business license and all other relevant documents to back them up well i say go for it the problem is when you get the nohopers who only want to do it to turn a buck and do not want to be held responsible if things go pair shape
we are going to get good and bad in everything and it is a case of buyer and seller beware
if there is legitimate brokers out there i for one would love to here about them just as i would love to be warned of the ones that are not legit
so i think if there is a "broker "who is not legit then let people know as this is the only way we can get rid of them and it would also be great to hear about the ones that are legit as that will help when buying and selling birds
anyway that is my 2 cents worth hope i didn't bore you all
regards
bill

[hillcresttiels]

Hi Squawk i have had the person from melbourne deal with me presumably the same person as there are not many brokers here and sorry to say I have had nothing but headaches.My point is as a buyer they are handy for perspective clients as a breeder they do nothing but kill the market price for all the effort that has been put in.they are not aviculturists and most dont know much about sexes and varieties although there might be some good brokers around but I have dealt with quite a few and all they seem to create is problems. just my 2 cents worth

Frank

[stillsqwarkin]

I read franks comments and am sorry that he had a bad experience
i wasnt afraid to name names?
but you have to be carefull with what you say on the net all sorts of people get offended
i like the idea though that a forum is able to allow what all their members say to be shown it gives others a different perspective on other people
like frank having had bad dealings with one person and myself having nothing but good dealings with her
but that lady doesnt prentend as far as i have had dealings not to be anything but a broker
stillswarkin
jenn

[hillcresttiels]

Hi Jenn thats the whole idea here,if we give our own opinions and how we feel then others can absorb what they need and disregard what they dont need. In my case if it was only one experience then I would bite the bullet and put it down to bad luck but once you've had a few of them then you might understand the anger. cheers and thanks for your opinion as that is what it's all about!

[josiedownunda]

Well my turn to sprout now!
Personally I wouldn't buy a bird from a broker. A breeder that buys birds and then resells them is a different story....and then only if all the relevant information about the birds breeder and the birds background can be provided. I want to know that any bird I purchase is not stolen or captured from the wild and comes from a knowledgable breeder that has given the bird the best.
There is good and bad in all aspects of birds and the people involved. The good ones stay in business and usually the bad ones get in for a quick buck but sooner or later their reputation kills any money that could be made.
I have noticed that good and bad reputations spread at the same speed and unfortunately it only takes one mistake for the bad word to pass round. Groups like this help spread advice on who is good or not and if people want to do the wrong thing then I don't feel they have a right to complain about the truth being being said.
A breeder who buys birds and then resells or sells birds for someone else in my opinion is not a broker. Usually a broker has no contact with the birds and doesn't actually purchase them and keep them themselves before moving them on. They are only a middle man and unfortunately usually one with little knowledge. I have sold birds for friends but always provide the breeders details and usually make no money myself...usually end up wasting my own money on fuel to get the bird to the new owner and on making phone calls to arrange it all. A totally different kettle of fish to a real 'broker'.
Regards
Jo-Anne