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Post by Catbird on Oct 3, 2004 13:09:43 GMT 10
Hey Guys,
I've been given a funnily coloured cockatiel, but I'm not 100% sure what it is.
To me it looks platnium, but it looks 'dirty' - thats the only word to describe it. So it must have something else in it.
It has very pale grey over the wings and body, however the body and back feathers have a yellow wash (not pearling). The rump and tail are pale yellow outlined in pale grey. The primaries are pale grey with a yellow wash. The crest is yellow and pale grey. Head and cheeks are normal colouration. Bill, feet and toenails are pink, and the eyes are very dark - but I can't tell you if they are red. It has a small bald spot on the back of the head.
I'll try to get hold of a digital camera to get a photo of it. But any ideas would be appreciated in the meantime.
- Claire
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Post by hillcresttiels on Oct 3, 2004 15:16:43 GMT 10
Hi Claire sounds like you have a Lutino Cinnamon ist choice or a very mature Lutino Cock which develop that sandy wash thru them as they get older 2nd choice :)cheers Frank
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Post by Catbird on Oct 3, 2004 15:59:36 GMT 10
hmmm .. not definately not a lutino. Bred heaps of them before. I'll have to get a photo to show you what it looks like I think.
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Post by hillcresttiels on Oct 3, 2004 16:42:11 GMT 10
Now you have me going Claire do you know the sex?If its a male could be a Platino !
Frank
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Post by Catbird on Oct 3, 2004 21:27:56 GMT 10
OK .. I took some photos on my friends digital camera. The camera wasn't that great and the photos turned out rubbish! But its the best I can do for the time being: photobucket.com/albums/v487/Quarrion/I'm thinking either cinnamon lutino or platino. I think its a male, but its still young so not 100% on that. Most interesting colour is on the wing coverts and flight feathers. The covert feathers are very light grey lined with white. While the flight feathers are pale grey lined white. The yellow suffusion is mostly to the chest and rump. I've compared the colouration to my platnium bird and my cinnamon bird and both the other birds have darker colouration that this bird, which is why I think it could be either plus lutino. Cheers for the help. Sorry about the poor photo quality! |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Oct 3, 2004 21:31:35 GMT 10
Hi Claire need a password to see the photo i use this site to host my photos hassle free or even place them straight onto the forum cheers Frank imageshack.us/index3.php |
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Post by Zack on Oct 3, 2004 21:47:42 GMT 10
Claire, It sounds like you have a Platinum. My Platinum hen has nearly the same description.
I will try to send you pic as soon as I can so that you can compare, but the bird you have sounds very similar to my hen.
Karen
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Post by Catbird on Oct 3, 2004 21:51:56 GMT 10
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Post by hillcresttiels on Oct 3, 2004 21:59:49 GMT 10
Ok Claire not that bad the photos! had a look definately Platinum doesn't look light enough for Platino in the photo but Platinum has a lot of shades about them.cheers Frank  |
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Post by Catbird on Oct 3, 2004 22:04:01 GMT 10
Woo hoo!!
Thank you Frank & Karen:) ... At least I know what 'Casper' is (I always name my birds!).
Will go with the platnium wf pearl hen I have.
Cheers,
Claire
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Post by Zack on Oct 3, 2004 22:14:18 GMT 10
Claire, Your bird may have some lutino in it for the bald spot to be evident. I haven't seen a platinum with a bald spot. To be honest I've only seen lutinos with the bald spots. Does anyone know if there are any other mutations that suffer from the bald spots?? Thanks Karen |
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Post by josiedownunda on Oct 4, 2004 6:06:51 GMT 10
The only other colour I know of is fallow!Depending on the age of the bird it may not necessarily be a bald spot but just slow covering.
Jo-Anne
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Post by hillcresttiels on Oct 4, 2004 16:46:49 GMT 10
Looking at the photo Josie i'd say the bird slight bald spot is one that is recovering from feather plucking! you will find out when you breed if he is Patino he will breed Lutino Albino and Platinum hens hpoe that helps Claire cheers Frank  |
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Post by Catbird on Jan 2, 2005 14:15:59 GMT 10
Here is the same bird while going through his first moult. He still has some yellowy feathers which give him a greenish tinge. And still has a small bald spot, so probably carrying lutino. Can someone confirm if it is platnium or silver? Ta, Claire  |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Jan 2, 2005 15:03:36 GMT 10
Look more like a platino cock to me in this photo and also the evidence of a bald spot mentioned !
Frank
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Post by josiedownunda on Jan 2, 2005 15:40:12 GMT 10
I agree with the platino as well. It doesn't look dark enough to be a platinum and I have never seen a bald spot in a platinum....I have in platinos though! The colour in the flight feathers has too much brownish tones....I think that is the best description....to be a silver!
Jo-Anne
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Post by Catbird on Jan 2, 2005 19:17:17 GMT 10
Cheers guys!
The photo is spot on to the actual colour, whereas the other photos I took were overexposed.
I am glad he is platino. I can now set up him with a nice lutino hen for next season.
- Claire
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Post by hillcresttiels on Jan 2, 2005 20:18:14 GMT 10
By putting him to a Lutino hen you will only enhance the bald spot and create problem genes I would be more inclined to look at a platinum hen cheers Frank
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Post by Catbird on Jan 2, 2005 20:23:36 GMT 10
What about with a lutino hen with no bald spot? He is only missing a few feathers and my lutino hens are the 3rd generation with no bald spot. Lutinos were my main breed for 10 years and the birds I have left are from my own bloodlines originating from my very first purchased birds. I'll wait for his moult to finish and see how it goes, but I just sold my platnium hen  so if I can breed him with a lutino it would be better! |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Jan 2, 2005 20:32:44 GMT 10
Hi Claire i dont want to sound negative but breeding Lutino to Lutino as is a Platino you are playing with leigthal genes that will reduce size,formation and create infertility very similar to inbreeding.If your birds are 3rd generation with no bald spots you would want to keep it that way, by placing Lutino to a Platino with an established bald spot already indicates defiency, something that can expose itself dramatically when reproduced cheers Frank
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so if I can breed him with a lutino it would be better!