Lovebird needing a home

[sebzpets]

www.petlink.com.au/Classifieds/sale/652118.html

[Phill]

Aww poor bugger. I hope he find's a home..

[vankarhi]

bloody hell, did you read the last bit. "Don't have the heart to destroy it or release it" Is this what happens to many birds when no longer wanted??? The fact the person is giving it away it a good thing ;D but I just got a bit upset at the last comment.

[Phill]

Agreed Tracey. I don't see why he can't just get the bird a differnt mate if he want's to use the female.... I just hope it find's a home were it will be looked after properly..

[silvercloud]

Yeah it upset me too Tracey. It's unnecessary to destroy them but really irresponsible to let them go.

[sebzpets]

It's just to far for me to grab otherwise I would. I have no way of getting it here,but hoped a lovebird person here might be able to get it somehow.

[vankarhi]

the fact that he wants to give it away isn't a problem to me, it was just the end comment that upset me. If he doesn't want to breed with it then I think it is fine to rehome it.

[sebzpets]

Yes Tracey his last comment was uncalled for..his prob received heaps of hate email for it,bvut at the same time It has prob found a home as most ppl would be thinking the same as you. I've emailed him to find out if it is still available,waiting a reply.

[shauncochrane]

that last comment was terrible he shoould be reported f he is going to do that if he does not find a home for the bird.

[sebzpets]

I understand everyone is a tad upset about this guy's statement but from a chook breeders point of view he has done a good thing offering it to a home. In the poultry world if it has a problem than culling does occur and sometimes just because the young bird is not upto the breed or show quality. I'm sure this probably occurs in the avi world as well. Yes I cull my poultry where necc but I also look at a lot of other things too.....hence why I have a POL pullet that has had a severly bent beak since I bought her and her family when she was just a week old. Of 10 chicks she was the only one to have this defect,yet she has stayed along with her sister. 5 were sold at auction sexes unknown and than 3 I culled (all boys).

This owner is at least trying to find a new home for the poor beggar and yes I'd happily give him a lifelong home but I can't get to him.

As breeders we have to make tough decisions...sometimes we can pass and bird on to a new home....other times we have no choice but too .......................

Sorry kids but thats the way it is,at least this guy is trying for something better.

[sebzpets]

Return sms states this boy is getting picked up on Fri or will be re-advertised. Here's hoping he got a great lifelong home folks.

[Minna]

"Culling" Glad to see he doesn't have the heart!

[sebzpets]

He prob does have theheart Minna...he just tought to offer the boy to a home first

[robert]

Hope of use. on the topic of culling. Lovebirds get treated in ways,that people would never dream of doing to the more expensive birds. see users.accesscomm.ca/parrot/EXS/Exs.htm best Robert and Angel

[silvercloud]

I found the part about letting it go more upsetting than the culling to be honest. Culling will hopefully be instant but releasing it will cause it suffer of starvation or predator attack before it dies.

[Minna]

Wouldn't be illegal to release them, being foreign birds? Even besides its likely inability to take care of itself.

I understand the reasons behind culling, but when there's nothing genetically wrong with the bird. Culling it because you want to breed its mate with another bird, as opposed to because there's something legitimately wrong with it, seems very callous to me.

[sebzpets]

Minna it would and certainly is illegal to release a foreign bird into the wild. Foreign birds are a pest that has and continues to impact on our native fauna and flora. Look what noisy minors do,deers in our national parks,foxes....the list can go on. Thats why laws were bought in to prevent foreign releases...huge fines are applicable to anyone caught doing it.

[robert]

Hope this is not of topic. And hope I am diplomatic enough. I would like to respond to Culling and Foreign Birds in the wild. When the topic of culling arises with Parrots,inevitably Lovebirds and Budgies are the two species that soon come up.Culling because of a genetic defict can go all the way from being too small to being deficient in bodily equipment that would sustain a happy life for the bird.Most culling would happen,because it is near the former.Hardly anyone would dispute culling if the bird could not probably sustain its existence,or it lived in pain. Hope that makes sense. Most culling happens ,because the bird is too short,or because it is not a top quality bird ,or because the breeder has too many birds,and can't get rid of them.I have never heard of anyone doing that to African Greys, Macaws or Alexandrines. I do know of breeders,who do not cull such birds,but then put them in a big aviary,and not breed them. These birds ought to be allowed to live out the rest of their lives.That they ought not be breed, I do not dispute. The way we breed such birds very likely increases the probably of such a defect. I have never heard of a duster budgie born in the wild. Yet some people do breed them. The fact the most species brought in from overseas ,has brought untold damage to our native species,does not mean all do . I have seen the Europan Goldfinch in the wild ,in Australia. I cannot see how they would do any damage to our native species.When I was a child , growing up in Acacia Ridge, Brisbane,there were Zebras, Redheads, Double-Bars,and Nutmegs,that could easily be found in the bush nearby.One of those ,I think either Nutmeg or Redhead originally came from overseas. But then they lived happily together.Also because a species is native to Australia,does not mean it is native to all of Australia.Just because a bird is native to Queensland,does not mean it is native to Western Australia.This is a predictament,that one of our beautifull Lorrikets found in Queensland,is in.In Western Australia, it causes havoc with the native species there,because it is too aggressive Hope not out of place.. best Robert and Angel.

[sebzpets]

Robert I think you will find that the "nutmeg" is known also as the Chestnut Breasted Mannikin
Latin Name: Lonchura castaneothorax
Other Names: Barley Bird, Barley Sparrow, Bullfinch, Bullie, Chestnut Finch, Chestnut Breasted Finch, Chestnut Breasted Munia.

Certainly an introduced species....well the munia is at the very least and munias do hybridise with the native which in effect gives Aust a pest finch,that deplets native species habitat/s and feed volumes.

Munias are also known to "nest steal" which also depletes native species...yep I had chestnuts here for a time in a mixed aviary (chestnuts are classed as native) yet they also pair off and will/do breed with mannikins/benglanese etc.....thus hydridising OUR native birds and impactng upon their nesting and feeding sites. Munias will ultimately in time become a pest like the deer or fox and wipe out bird species native to Australia.

Our forefathers have so much to anwser for....they may have helped build a gr8 society (sometimes) but they screwed our wildlife as well.

[vankarhi]

Your post was fine Robert and I love it when posts cause discussions (not arguements), but yes I thought the same as you Sebastion, that these finches might still be able to mix breed with our native wildlife and that is where the problems can lie.