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Post by rainbowfeathers77 on Feb 24, 2008 15:22:10 GMT 10
Ok...well if anyone is still watching this thread....can I ask you if this might work...I think this is what I'd like to do..... Could I keep 4 tame male ringnecks in one big cage (and I'd obviously let them out daily)
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Post by avril on Feb 24, 2008 22:34:57 GMT 10
Mutations The original or normal Indian Ringneck is green colored and is available in India and Pakistan in wild, easily. There are, however many color mutations, which add much color and attraction to them. I have briefly described some of these mutations and still the list is incomplete! Dark Green Dark green Ringnecks have single dark green factor. They have been found in wild and I myself have seen them caught from wild. They are same as normal greens, just with a darker shade of green. Lutino These are sex-linked recessive and are completely yellow but males do have the black ring around the neck line. They have red eyes and light colored feet and nails. Blue These are recessive type. They have a blue body but the cocks have black ring around the neck with white shadow. The feet are grey and eyes are black. Grey Grays are dominant in the blue series of Ringnecks. They have black eyes with yellow iris. The feet are grey. Albino These are members of "Ino" family and have red eyes and light colored feet and nails. They are actually combination of Blue and Ino. Olive Olives have double dark factor. They can never be confused with dark green or grey green. The main feature of the olives is the tinge of blue in the tails. They have black iris and grey feet. Grey Green It is mixture of grey and green and results form pairing of grey with green Ringnecks. Most people confuse grey green with olive which is wrong. the grey green is actually a dominant type and it doesn't have a double dark green factor like olives. The main difference is that unlike olives the grey-green has blackish sort of tail without any shade of blue in it. Turquoise or Pastel Previously called Pastel is dominant in blue series of Ringnecks. They may be of blue, grey or white color with shades of pale green, pale grey or yellow on the wings, respectively. Pallid or Lacewing They are sex-linked recessive with white heads and body is washed with light color. Tail is lighter in color. Eyes are dark red and feet are light grey. Pied Pieds can be dominant or recessive. They are also seen in wild in Pakistan. I have a pair which was caught from wild. Dominant Pieds have grey feet and grey nails. The eyes are also black. The recessive Pieds have lighter feet and dark red eyes and the neck ring is not visible in cocks. Clear Tail or Whitehead-Whitetail or Yellowhead-Yellow New name is cleartail. The head may be white or yellow. The feet are light colored and eyes are black with yellow iris. These are Autosomal recessive type. Clearhead or Yellowhead or Buttercup This type is Autosomal recessive too and has red eyes. It was formerly known as Yellowhead or buttercup. as its head is yellow or white in case of whitehead. Cobalt It has single dark factor. Body has a darker shade of blue. It is combination of single dark factor and blue. Eyes are black with yellow iris. Cinnamon Cinnamon is sex-linked recessive. It has an overall wash of light brown. Eyes are dark red with yellow iris. Mauve It has a double dark factor as it is combination of blue and double dark factor. Eyes are black with yellow iris. Dilute or Diffused or Black-Eyed It has a splash of a single color all over the body only very light in color. Eyes are black.
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Post by rainbowfeathers77 on Feb 24, 2008 23:23:16 GMT 10
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Post by avinet on Feb 25, 2008 8:37:24 GMT 10
Pied Pieds can be dominant or recessive. They are also seen in wild in Pakistan. I have a pair which was caught from wild. Dominant Pieds have grey feet and grey nails. The eyes are also black. How can you have a wild caught pair since there have been no legal importations of Indian Ringnecks since the 1950's? just curious Mike
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Post by silvercloud on Feb 25, 2008 12:23:01 GMT 10
Mike I think Avril copied and pasted the info.
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Post by avril on Feb 25, 2008 12:26:38 GMT 10
It is a reference that I have bookmarked on my computer It was sent to me as is by a breeder friend of mine as is, so I don't have where it originally came from or by who is was composed, sorry if I misled you, not intended. I use it for my own use as when I started with IRN's the colouring was so confusing. I have a pastel Blue Hen but to anyone else they would say pastel green so it is used for learning. Avril.
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Post by pinkdevil on Feb 25, 2008 13:06:33 GMT 10
avinet, I love the pic of your coloured babies. All in one nest to, that was lucky. Did you go out and buy a lotto ticket??? Tasha
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Post by courtzrocks on Feb 25, 2008 13:11:08 GMT 10
Yeah thats what i thought, rainbow nest!
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Post by avinet on Feb 25, 2008 15:21:05 GMT 10
Hi Avril. Glad to hear that, I should have realised anyway from the style of writing - wasn't thinking. There are actually a few errors in it, and reading it closer I believe it probably originated from an English RN breeder of Indian origin known to be a bit stubborn about accepting the gospel according to Terry Martin's book on mutations . Just to give an example it says when describing grey-green that "It is mixture of grey and green and results form pairing of grey with green Ringnecks.". In actual fact Grey-green is a primary mutation originating in a mutation of DNA code and not derived by crossing two different colours. Also Grey is in fact a combination colour obtained by having blue and grey-green visually present in the same bird, much like a white RN is a visual combination of blue and lutino. cheers, Mike
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Post by avril on Feb 25, 2008 21:59:55 GMT 10
Hi Mike, I'm still learning the genetics and mutations so all information is greatly appreciated. I have Phil Robinson book The breeders Handbook of Indian Ringnecks, also his latest ones The Breeders Handbook of Asiatic Birds. They are great birds. I have a 6mth old Albino that has the run of the house and he has just learnt to talk. He was handraised as mum deserted him and his sibling, when they were 3 weeks old,unfortunately the other did not survive Pidge is a well traveled bird, he has already been to QLD and back at the tender age of 6 weeks, so he is really spoilt. I am transfering him to a bigger avairy out the back, but will still have him inside as well. What is the name of Terry Martins Book would be very interested to get one.
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Post by avinet on Feb 26, 2008 11:47:11 GMT 10
What is the name of Terry Martins Book would be very interested to get one. Terry Martin is an excellent avian vet on the south side of Brisbane, and he is an expert on colour mutations of birds. He runs a YahooGroups list on parrot genetics which is an excellent source of information but is often very technical and hard for us amateurs to follow. He has written the definitive book an parrot mutations entitled "A Guide to Colour Mutations and Genetics in Parrots" which is published by the Australian Birdkeeper. www.birdkeeper.com.au will let you order on line or good pet shops will have it in stock or can order it in (if they don't know where to get it tell them that Kong's are the pet shop distributor). It is pitched at two levels - the first section at one that mere mortals can follow and the second section for the experts. cheers, Mike
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