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Post by Jacksprat on Nov 10, 2005 15:47:44 GMT 10
I'm looking for a genetic calculator that will factor in the platinum gene.
I have the Kirsten Munsten one from the States but they don't have platinum over there. I did have one once but didn't know how to apply it to tiels as it had all the generic terms. I know now at least that WF = blue.
Or can someone tell me the results for WF/Pl/Pr/Pd cock and WF-Pl-Pr hen.
Thanks, Jacqui
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Post by hillcresttiels on Nov 10, 2005 16:30:17 GMT 10
Hi Jacquie here is the link if you find this one too hard then use the Kirsten Munsten calculator and replace platinum with cinnamon then with your results transfer cinnamon back to Platinum for the same results except when Lutino is involved!  www.gencalc.com/gen/eng_genc.php?sp=0CockFrank |
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Post by Jacksprat on Nov 11, 2005 7:25:07 GMT 10
Thanks Frank,
It's fine, I just have to think harder to interpret it!!
I'll be sending in a photo in the next few days of the babies of the pair we have been genetically decoding!!!
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Post by hillcresttiels on Nov 11, 2005 14:10:46 GMT 10
OH OH Here we go again lol! ;D
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Post by Jacksprat on Nov 12, 2005 17:09:46 GMT 10
Gee Frank, was it that painful!!!   I'm just trying to upload the photos, I need to resize them, having trouble. |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Nov 12, 2005 19:11:56 GMT 10
If your having probs Jacquie email me the photos and I will post it for you or post them here and we will resize it for you ;D
Frank
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Post by AussieBirds on Nov 12, 2005 19:44:35 GMT 10
Gee Frank, was it that painful!!! I'm just trying to upload the photos, I need to resize them, having trouble. You dont have to resize your photos any more Jacksprat the forum will do it for you automatically. John |
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Post by Jacksprat on Nov 14, 2005 8:55:43 GMT 10
These are the babies. The one chick they had last year was identical to the hen. Look platinum to me!!!!! There are two pieds, the normWF and the platinum.   Thanks for all your input Frank. The calculator has helped immensly as well. Jacqui |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Nov 14, 2005 14:38:01 GMT 10
still a bit young to tell though you it looks like you have Normal wface split pied, a wface platinum pied,wface plat pearl,and wface plat.! We will get a better idea as they get closer to fledging and possibly take a photo with a wing spread! cheers Frank |
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Post by kim1 on Nov 29, 2005 20:35:00 GMT 10
Okay, I've been trying to figure this caculator out, and thought I had it figured but a couple of combinations I but in came up with some questions, one resulted in a Green/blue/cinnamon/ino cock bird, can ringnecks be split to cinnamon and ino in the same bird? also what the heck is an ino cinnamon/blue cock?
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Post by hillcresttiels on Nov 29, 2005 21:04:07 GMT 10
Ino is the correct term for Lutino and so the Ino- Cinnamon is a Lutino-Cinnamon and only cocks can be split to them Not Hens. Where you see this symbol / means split-to or carries the hidden genetics.When you pair up cock carrying all these traits and mum is not then anything that resembles the dad in offspring will be hens! cheers Frank |
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Post by kim1 on Nov 30, 2005 17:58:53 GMT 10
ok Frank, but when it say's ino cinnamon/ blue what is the visual on the bird, is it Lutino or cinnamon, or something like a luting with dirty looking flight feathers as it says ino cinnamon not ino/ cinnamon, This might be a silly question but I'm puzzled by it.
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Post by hillcresttiels on Nov 30, 2005 18:15:29 GMT 10
Parrots can have more than 1 visual color some have a combination of 3-4 different colors and these are what we call Multi Mutations. Ino Cinnamon/Blue means that the bird is a Lutino Cinnamon (looks like a lutino but has that cinnamon wash thru the body) and Blue is a hidden genetic that is recessive meaning you need both parents to carry the blue gene to produce Blue young. When Blue is combined with Lutino you produce Albino so if the above mentioned bird is a cock then he will have the genetics to produce and Albino Cinnamon Hen (pure white with red eyes and a sandy dirty type wash thru the body) cheers Frank |
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Post by kim1 on Dec 1, 2005 6:50:35 GMT 10
mmmm, a dirty albino that can't be washed? think I'll give that breeding combination a miss. Thanks Frank
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Post by Jacksprat on Dec 1, 2005 20:50:35 GMT 10
Do you mean a dirty wash like this?? This bird came from a WF-Pd/L cock and WF hen, but dad might have cinamon as well then  |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Dec 2, 2005 12:04:23 GMT 10
Sorry jacquie the photo is too small to tell!  Frank |
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Post by kim1 on Dec 4, 2005 10:18:31 GMT 10
Just me again, how do I get it to calculate combinations with normal grey in it, I click grey but it calculates grey green instead?
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Post by hillcresttiels on Dec 4, 2005 11:16:38 GMT 10
Hi Kim I would like to apologise for accidently deleting yesterdays post by you as mentioned in the PM i sent you .Your question related to Lacewings and any other terms or names that are used overseas currently the genetic boys are trying to convert Lacewing to Paliid so tick Pallid!~ Regarding Greys= If you are refering to the calculator metioned here at www.gencalc.com/gen/eng_genc.php?sp=0PsitIRat the top of the page under Dominant they have Grey but this is tricky as you need to know whether your grey is single factor or double factor meaning a bird that comes from 2 greys (both parents) is double factor and from one parent grey is single factor! cheers Frank |
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Post by kim1 on Dec 4, 2005 16:14:57 GMT 10
Hi Frank, The bird I have is single factor (from a grey cock and blue hen) but I tick grey and when I click generate it gives be the result for a greygreen hen not a grey, I don't know how to get it to show plain grey as it keeps changing it.
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Post by kim1 on Dec 4, 2005 16:21:15 GMT 10
hey I figured it out, I have to click visually grey and blue to get it to work.
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