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Post by josiedownunda on Nov 1, 2004 13:23:13 GMT 10
Ok it's time to stop wallowing in self-pity and move on and make the best of what I have left. Thanks to that wonderful guy on here called Frank I am feeling much more positive and looking forward to some new birds...eventually! Here is a pic of the 2 babies that decided not to leave home with the others. Not sure what it is but I am getting the feeling that the first pic is a hen and the 2nd is a male! It will be interesting to see the final outcome!   Jo-Anne |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Nov 1, 2004 13:57:07 GMT 10
Hi Jo-Anne glad i can help,with these 2 young fellows no wonder with a mum like you they didn't go,I think they
are great specimens that will do their parents proud and i have a hunch your opinion of sex might be right.
At this stage they look very healthy and tight feathering
is a good indicator of tiels that are well looked after cheers Frank
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Post by josiedownunda on Nov 1, 2004 14:04:16 GMT 10
Thanks Frank. I must admit the bird in the 2nd pic is my favourite of the 2. He just somehow seems more proud......sort of a 'look-at-me' composure! Plus he is very much the same patterning and style of the cinnamon pastelface...right down to the pied flight feathers. I just hope he is a male as I think he will be a stunner as he matures. Do you feel he is the same standard as the cinnamon was?
Jo-Anne
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Post by hillcresttiels on Nov 1, 2004 15:10:17 GMT 10
I think all 3 are of a good standard,getting back to the sexes and getting myself confused with which is the first and which is the second photo, the photo on the bottom of the page The Light Pied Pastelface looks like a hen to me as their is very little yellow suffusion aroud the face and the bloke up the top Normal Pastelface looks like a male with evidence of yellow suffusion ready to burst thru as it gets older please note this is only a visual opinion!. Will be interested to see how we go cheers Frank
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Post by josiedownunda on Nov 1, 2004 16:11:16 GMT 10
Hmmm...actually I was saying the male is the bottom pic...the one with the more pied feathers. Both birds should only be split pied as the hen was not a pied or even split as far as I know. So looks like our opinions finally differ here.....it will be intersting to see which way it goes. I can see what you mean about the yellow suffusion in the face of the other bird...you have a good point there. Maybe some other members would like to offer their opinions on which bird is which sex?
Jo-Anne
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Post by lovemytiels on Nov 1, 2004 16:47:24 GMT 10
Hi Jo-Anne, great looking birds. MMMM from just looking at the pics i would say the top picture looks like a male & the bottom picture looks like a female. It will be interesting to know what sex they will be. Hope you let us know. Cheers for now Anna
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Post by hillcresttiels on Nov 1, 2004 17:16:18 GMT 10
Hi Jo the bottom photo shows definate signs of a very light Pied hence the white flight feathers, not a split also note the crest feathers are yellow if she wasn.t pied these would be grey like the bird in the other photo so i would say that mum is split to a Very Light Pied cheers Frank  |
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Post by josiedownunda on Nov 1, 2004 17:29:30 GMT 10
That figures...find out what splits they have when you dont have them anymore!!LOL Oh well at least I know now exactly what constitutes a pied or just a split. I was unsure how much pied markings were needed to actually classify it as a full pied. So basically if the crest feathers are yellow...or white as in a whiteface then the baby is a full pied although only a light one?........is that in combination with the yellow flights or just the yellow crest alone? It explains things a bit.....that means this ones mum was actually split and her mum was split also as I did get a wf pied once with the same patches of white as the above pastelface. That must be how the pied gene passed down the line.
I may just have to try and borrow back the original hen and put her with the male she was with to give me the wflutino I lost. Could be worth a shot to get another hen like her....hmmmm....food for thought!
Jo-Anne
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Post by josiedownunda on Nov 1, 2004 17:31:25 GMT 10
Thanks Anna, and glad you gave your opinion on the sex too. I will definately let everyone know what sex they turn out to be...even if I am wrong!!LOL I will also check the wing spots on them and see if I can get pics of that so we can see how accurate or not that technique is.
Jo-Anne
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Post by lovemytiels on Nov 1, 2004 18:29:28 GMT 10
Hi Jo-Anne, well since last year in normal tiels split for anything I use to use the wing dots as a gauge as usully in males the wing dots only go half way up Well bugger me I paired a w/f male possible split for pearl & cinnamon to a lutino pearl female & all the babies had wing dots right up their wing. (no visual pearls or cinnamons so I don't think he was carrying these genes as i had 3 clutches from this pair & they turned out normal but splis) Confused the hell out of me as I had to wait till they were about 3 to 4 months old to tell what was what. So the moral to my story is you can't always trust the wing dots LoL as I sold what I thought was 2 males & I thought I had kept 1 male & 1 female but it was 2 males. Lucky enough the place I sold them to still had one there & it was a female which I swapped for the male which I might add slipped my net about 4 weeks ago & I lost her, ungrateful wench. Cheers for now Anna ;D
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Post by AussieBirds on Nov 1, 2004 18:56:20 GMT 10
Well Jo-Anne whatever sex they are I know they are great looking birds and they now have a great mum to look after them. Like you said time to move forward now and the excitment of new babies, Good luck with them.
John
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Post by senn on Nov 3, 2004 10:00:51 GMT 10
yeh,
well done jo. definately nice looking birds whatever the sex.
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