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Post by mirrebwaypark on Dec 30, 2004 13:27:56 GMT 10
hi this is a quarrion i have got. i dont know much about quarrion genetics, but i like this birds colouring. it has been through a couple of moults now and still no change?? can anyone tell me what mutation this is called? cheers wayne   |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Dec 30, 2004 17:15:32 GMT 10
The top photo shows a Cinnamon Light Pied closest to the camera and looks every bit a male the other is a Whitefaced Cinnamon Pearl Reverse Pied and has the features of a hen.The bottom photo shows spasmodic pied appearance similar to a spangled variety although I'm getting a hunch that the Cinn Pied male was once pearl and has that the pearling has moulted out leaving the current appearance have you bred with this bird and if so where any or all of the offspring pearled cheers
Frank
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Post by mirrebwaypark on Dec 30, 2004 20:54:17 GMT 10
i bought that cock bird as a youngster - he has always been that colour, his parents were a cinn and a lutino i think. he went down with the wf hen and have had cinn babies as far as i can see(still young in the nest)
i have another hen like him (sister) but she is not as "spasmodic pied" as him. are these birds of any value in the genetic side of things?
cheers wayne
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Post by petiel on Dec 30, 2004 20:56:11 GMT 10
I think the cockatiel looks like a normal cinnamon which is not that old and is molting into his dark colour. Young cinnamon are light and after they start molting
they get darker. Around 1 year he will not be as patchy.
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Post by hillcresttiels on Dec 30, 2004 21:23:15 GMT 10
Seems to me that his mothers gene(lutino) have reacted with the pigmentation to give that spangled effect I'm pretty confident he will remain that way and the look doesn't increase it value although seems to have a nice stature about him! Could be normal Cinnamon but seems to have a lot of yellow in crest to indicate some form of Pied or maybe Lutino cheers
Frank
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Post by josiedownunda on Dec 31, 2004 5:41:09 GMT 10
Hi Wayne, Just another thought on that mottley effect on the cinnamon....is he in a cage with access to the sun? I had a cinn wf hen that would change colour in summer to look almost the same as your fellow. When she was young she was darker with a more even tone to the cinnamon. Here is a snap of her before and after.   Jo-Anne |
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Post by mirrebwaypark on Dec 31, 2004 8:18:20 GMT 10
the birds do have access to the sun, but the roof is a full one only leaving the 2 1/2 sides in the sun. this seems a pretty good explanation josie, it might be a simple vit d defieciency.
cheers guys thanks for your replys
wayne.........
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Post by josiedownunda on Dec 31, 2004 9:02:04 GMT 10
I think you misunderstood me Wayne. It is caused by the sun not by lack of it. The darker colour was first then lightened in patches once the bird was in the sun.
Jo-Anne
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Post by hillcresttiels on Dec 31, 2004 13:29:56 GMT 10
I have seen quite a few of these birds and it's all part of featherstucture from genetic pools and very rarely do they alter melanin and pigmentation and only sometimes does a moult affect them but in general they remain the same thru their lives additional sun can bleach them but their tones will return after a moult
Frank
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Post by mirrebwaypark on Dec 31, 2004 14:54:45 GMT 10
well, what sort of mutation should i put this cock bird too?? as i said before im not real up to date with the genetics of quarrions. my sister is the quarrion breeder, but this bird is one of mine.
cheers wayne
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