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Post by fuzzydragonfly on May 25, 2006 14:59:12 GMT 10
I've never had to hand raise a bird but I suppose it's useful to know this info incase I might need to do it one day. How can you tell their's air in the crop? I know the with the pigeons their crop are almost see through you can see what their getting is that the case for other birds or is there something special to look out for. LOL I walk around with tropical fish in my jacket at winter time (when I buy them) and I get funny looks. If you need to keep them warm you've gotta do it in whatever method you have avaiable. I was lucky with the ducklings, I confiscated the rest of the mother and raised them in a home made brooder (aka. plastic box with light bulb attached). They're cute but stink up the house worse then my rats do  . I was glad when their feathers started growing in and I could move them out into the open air. I've got ducks on the brain ;D. Also good to hear your other baby pulled through, hope your little yellow bird does the same. |
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Post by AussieBirds on May 25, 2006 19:17:21 GMT 10
I've never had to hand raise a bird but I suppose it's useful to know this info incase I might need to do it one day. How can you tell their's air in the crop? I know the with the pigeons their crop are almost see through you can see what their getting is that the case for other birds or is there something special to look out for. LOL I walk around with tropical fish in my jacket at winter time (when I buy them) and I get funny looks. If you need to keep them warm you've gotta do it in whatever method you have avaiable. I was lucky with the ducklings, I confiscated the rest of the mother and raised them in a home made brooder (aka. plastic box with light bulb attached). They're cute but stink up the house worse then my rats do . I was glad when their feathers started growing in and I could move them out into the open air. I've got ducks on the brain ;D. Also good to hear your other baby pulled through, hope your little yellow bird does the same. You can tell there is air in the crop by the way it forms, usually the sack blows up on the side of the head and the two sacks are completly clear. If you can imagine two balloons, one either side of the head way above where the crop normally is thats what it looks like. I'm still worried about the little one even though he seems healthy he still can't walk on his feet and continues to walk on his elbows, I am trying to clean him up but it's hard when they don't have too many feathers. The biggest one is almost ready to go to a new owner but I will keep him a bit longer until I'm sure he is 100%. John |
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Post by fuzzydragonfly on May 25, 2006 22:19:22 GMT 10
Best of luck with your little one, hang in there. You've come this far I'm sure you'll give this bird the best chance of survival.
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Post by fuzzydragonfly on May 25, 2006 22:48:09 GMT 10
I was just thinking, this might be a long shot but do you think your bird could have a genetic abnormality. It would explain the slow growth and other abnormailities. I've got a brother who has Downs so I'm not saying it to discourage you from trying to save the bird. Just wondering if that might be a possibility. I've had a look around about air in the crop and found an interesting article: experts.about.com/q/Birds-General-2349/air-crop-african-grey.htm |
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Post by vankarhi on May 26, 2006 8:50:04 GMT 10
I had a baby budgie many years ago (when dinasaurs roamed the earth. LOL) and I took it from the aviary because he had malformed legs (actually I think I took him from the nest but he must have been ready to fledge) and I kept him in a cage and he loved me. But he died a few months later...........in my hands.............I balled my eyes out (I was about 15 years old and still ball my eyes out when they pass over the rainbow bridge). I believe there was more wrong with him than met the eye.  But you still gotta try heh |
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Post by AussieBirds on May 26, 2006 10:01:46 GMT 10
I was just thinking, this might be a long shot but do you think your bird could have a genetic abnormality. It would explain the slow growth and other abnormailities. I've got a brother who has Downs so I'm not saying it to discourage you from trying to save the bird. Just wondering if that might be a possibility. I've had a look around about air in the crop and found an interesting article: experts.about.com/q/Birds-General-2349/air-crop-african-grey.htmDon't worry you won't discourage me I have no intention of letting this little one go, I have been saving birds for a lot of years now and i enjoy every minute of it. As far as Genetic problems is concerned, yes there is always a possibility of that being the case, but this is always a problem when you colony breed birds. I read the article you posted the link to with great interest and I always worry when i see the word "expert" none of us are experts no matter how long we have been looking after birds and we all rely on our experiences and my experience is if you don't attend to the air in the crop the bird will eventually die from slow crop and eventually sour crop. John |
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Post by AussieBirds on May 28, 2006 20:09:09 GMT 10
We are all pretty down here today , the little one with the broken legs died last night, we tried so hard to pull the little one through and he was doing well but I guess he just wasn't strong enough. On a happier note the other little one went to a new home this afternoon he was so full of energy and was really doing well. His new owners will continue to give him top up feeds until he is completely independent, he has gone to a good home. John |
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Post by silvercloud on May 28, 2006 21:39:29 GMT 10
Oh I am so sorry to hear that John. You tried very hard with him. R.I.P little one.
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Post by guinevere on May 29, 2006 19:19:54 GMT 10
Sorry to hear that, I just started reading this post today. Its always heart-breaking especially when you put so much hope and effort into saving them. Atleast his last days were comfortable.
Good onya for trying, not many people do these days
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Post by fuzzydragonfly on May 29, 2006 21:47:58 GMT 10
So sorry to hear you lost him . You put up a good fight and did the best you could. I'm so glad to hear the other little one went to a good home  . On the comment about your other post I agree that I get suspicious when people refer to themselves as experts as it indicates they think they know all the answers when in truth there is still much to learn. I also don't like it when people say they have x years of experience, experience definately contributes to learning but it's not the only factor that determines how sucessful you are in what you do. Just my 5 cents, it was still an interesting article, I guess it's not always possible to release air in the crop using that method. |
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Post by vankarhi on May 29, 2006 22:08:31 GMT 10
Oh John I am so sad for you, you tried to so hard..............but there must have been much more wrong than what the eye could see. RIP little fellow |
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. I was glad when their feathers started growing in and I could move them out into the open air. 
But you still gotta try heh
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