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Post by trix on Sept 2, 2009 8:32:51 GMT 10
hi.iv got a large aviare with 4 red rumps and 4 princess parrots.1 of the red rumps had been sitting for 20 days. till today she was not in ther.the nesting box that is. so i had a look in the nesting box to find 4 eggs all broken!! have the other parrots kill them? i thort my aviare would have been ok for them as it is very large w5m.L5m.4m h. can sum 1 hellp as the red rump have started to go back 2 the box dont wont it to happen agen will it happen agen???  |
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Post by scots001 on Sept 2, 2009 10:04:04 GMT 10
Are you saying they, both species, are in a single communal aviary?
Is this their first clutch?
Has anything unusual happened in or around the aviary? workmen, stray animals and such?
OK, I should imagine the Red Rump is no different than other aggressive small breeders and that they are.
You can not keep more than one pair in the aviary. Infact I believe even loud vocalizations from other parrots can set them off and the aggression can take many forms and egg breaking is one of them...
If they go to nest again do you have a way to pull the eggs and do you have another hen who will sit those eggs? I have used one species to sit and hatch another species eggs but she has prov en to be trustworthy.
I have only had experience with the larger bird and possibly have not helped in the least...
I do know mixing birds when some are on the nest isn't always a wise decision.
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Post by AussieBirds on Sept 2, 2009 13:04:10 GMT 10
hi.iv got a large aviare with 4 red rumps and 4 princess parrots.1 of the red rumps had been sitting for 20 days. till today she was not in ther.the nesting box that is. so i had a look in the nesting box to find 4 eggs all broken!! have the other parrots kill them? i thort my aviare would have been ok for them as it is very large w5m.L5m.4m h. can sum 1 hellp as the red rump have started to go back 2 the box dont wont it to happen agen will it happen agen??? Red Rumps are an aggressive bird, however not necessarily toward to each other, it is my guess that the Princess Parrots were not the culprits either. I bred Red Rumps for a number of years and used to keep 6 pair in the same aviary mixed in with Cockatiels and never had any problems even during the breeding season. Birds have a sixth sense as far as the fertility of the eggs they have laid and it is possible they were not fertile. I would remove the remaining eggs clean out the nest box then put fresh nesting material in there and allow the hen to go back down, she should start to sit on the eggs after the third one is laid and should stay there until they hatch, in about 21 days, Just keep an eye on her and once she starts to lay check that the other hens are not interfering. John |
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Post by trix on Sept 2, 2009 14:43:05 GMT 10
thanks for the replys.the eggs that were broken had young in side all 4.  |
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Post by vankarhi on Sept 2, 2009 16:09:48 GMT 10
oh no that is so sad that they had babies in them.
John I was going to msg you to ask you to reply to this ..... I know you know about Red Rumps.....but you saw it ;D
I couldn't help as I only have alex's and ekkies in aviaries and they are not mixed.
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Post by robert on Sept 2, 2009 18:14:28 GMT 10
Trix,this is so sad.
from Robert and Precious
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Post by scots001 on Sept 2, 2009 23:44:51 GMT 10
Aussiebird, that was interesting how you managed to have so many housed together... Maybe they do that over here also. And you had quite the success it sounds like.
I worked for a large avian organization and I supervised the larger birds breeding aviaries so had little dealing with the little guys.
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Post by madaussie on Sept 3, 2009 7:24:22 GMT 10
Same here i had 9 pair in one large flight now 3 pair just sold of 6 pair as they would'nt stop breeding .
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Post by Laraine on Sept 3, 2009 9:35:16 GMT 10
I've got 4 pairs of Red Rumps, 1 pair Eastern Rosellas and 2 pairs of Cocktiels in the same aviary. Last season most of them bred. However I am moving the tiels out when the new aviary arrives. I have had birds sit on eggs for 20 days and then they are on the floor opened. If only we knew why. The Red Rumps are fighting amongst themselves with the breeding season starting, but don't fight with the other species.
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Post by AussieBirds on Sept 3, 2009 13:39:41 GMT 10
Usually babies dead in the shell is a dietry problem, what do you feed your birds?
John
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Post by trix on Sept 4, 2009 20:56:27 GMT 10
i have been feeding small parrot seed and sprouted seeds most days. |
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Post by vankarhi on Sept 5, 2009 5:46:01 GMT 10
they need fresh fruit and green leafy veges too. They might even need some calcium supplements before laying eggs.
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Post by trix on Sept 5, 2009 8:46:10 GMT 10
I enjoy going out and getting milk thistles and weeds and watching the birds munch them up. They are never short of cuttle shell. I have put it down to bad luck and am building them a new cage of their own. This might help.
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Post by AussieBirds on Sept 5, 2009 14:17:41 GMT 10
I would feed them Love Bird mix for seed not small parrot mix plus green veggies such as spinach. Endive, Celery leaves not Lettuce it will give the the runs and may cause liver damage I also feed corn either on the cob or just the kernels. A Calcium supplement is advisable once a week in the water, Sprouted seed is good, I would also check the nesting material you are using in my experience it is best to use one with an amount of peat moss in it and it should be just a little damp to give the box a bit of humidity.
John
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Post by trix on Sept 5, 2009 18:40:03 GMT 10
thanks for the tips. i think i will go and get new nesting material 1 with peat moss and give that a go |
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Post by finchperson on Sept 20, 2009 12:27:56 GMT 10
Do you think the eggs parents (the red rumps) could have broken them there self?  |
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Post by AussieBirds on Sept 20, 2009 12:45:25 GMT 10
Do you think the eggs parents (the red rumps) could have broken them there self? Yes it is very possible. John |
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Post by finchperson on Sept 21, 2009 15:59:22 GMT 10
I never new birds would do that. Ive been keeping birds for a long time and none of my breeding Gouldian & Zebra Finches have ever broken there eggs!!  |
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Post by Damo on Sept 21, 2009 20:51:06 GMT 10
Finchperson some birds can be strange, i have had lovebirds eat there own eggs and kakarikis eat there own young in the nest and you would think there never were any eggs or babies in the nest as no sign of blood would be left in the box.
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Post by finchperson on Oct 5, 2009 11:19:27 GMT 10
Yeah strange Well i think i did read somewhere that princess parrots will eat the eggs of other birds |
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