Opinions Wanted Please

[kali]

As I have two fairly large aviarys vacant, I had intended to buy a pair of sun conures, however as I live in a suburban area I was advised my
local council probably would not allow this as they as the sun conures are very loud.

Any advice on the Eclectus, my next choice- other than this I may have to have the Indian ringneck. I like them as well.

Having only had lovebirds previously any advice appreciated.

[vankarhi]

wow your council actually have laws preventing you to keep aviary birds?? or some species?? Ekkies can be loud but I don't think they are as loud.....or maybe "shrill" and constant as I have heard some aviary sunnies. Indian Ringnecks.......we found one and had her in our spare aviary until her rightful owner claimed ....... which the did.....and OMG was she loud. I actually said to my hubby "I think whoever owned her deliberately opened her cage door.....I found her more annoying than any of my birds......and my birds can be loud.

[kali]

Yep ---Roosters are definately a no no in our shire
Also conservation and land management( C.A.L.M) do not allow quakers or green cheek conures.
A little bit restricted in what we can and can't have. Maybe Megan can help me out here.
It sounds as if they can all be noisy. How about Alexandrine's.
I don't know why the shire care's as our yard is often full of corella's and galah's. They can be noisy.

[xoxoEbzxoxo]

Alexandrines can be noisy at times but i've only ever had one in my life time that I found on my property. Yes, I also agree Indian ringnecks can be noisy as I own a pair of them but mainly at dawn and dusk.

[vankarhi]

maybe go to some people houses ....... maybe join a bird club and find out who lives in your area and ask them what they think???

[megzly]

Hey Kali,

Im pretty sure the council cant stop you from owning ornamental birds - chooks yes, but our aviary friends dont qualify under the same legislation as their chooky cousins. So you can really own whatever the hell you want (even fancy ornamental fowl)

If you have alot of lorikeets or similar around the area that make a racket you may be able to pass off the noise your future birds make as wild bird noises - we did that for a while!

You could always ask the neighbours and see what they think? Or have a look at where the aviary is in conjunction with their house - is the aviary near a bedroom? if near a bedroom i would go for something more like an eckie as the noise is loud but not quite as penetrating and ear peircing in my experience.

We used to put all of our birds into sleeping cages for the night (not a problem now as we have a property for the birds) we put them in at 8 and let them out at 6 the next mornin. It was easy because all of the birds were tame, i understand that it may not be an option for bird that are born and bred in an aviary environment.

regardless i would have a look at what you want, what you aim to do with the birds, look at where your aviarys are located and what type of neighbours you have .

[avinet]

Jan 13, 2010 16:55:34 GMT 10 vankarhi said:

wow your council actually have laws preventing you to keep aviary birds?? or some species??

Many councils in Queensland have bylaws about keeping aviary birds, as well as chooks. For instance in the three council areas that combined to form the Sunshine Coast Council the following applies:

Caloundra area

Up to 20 poultry or birds can be kept on a property if they are adequately enclosed to prevent escape and the enclosure is not within:

* 2 metres of a side or rear boundary
* 10 metres of a residence or an adjoining premises
* 10 metres of a road.

The enclosure must have a minimum floor area of one square metre per bird and be constructed so it can be hygienically cleaned.

Maroochy

If you are keeping or breeding aviary birds, the aviary, cage or enclosure must be no less than:

* 10 metres from any residential premises on adjacent land
* one metre from any boundary of the land.

(no maximum number stated)


Noosa

Up to 20 aviary birds or pigeons may be kept on a property in the Noosa area.



And apart from these restrictions there are the usual noise restrictions and aviary owners are at the mercy of their neighbours. We had one customer whose neighbour complained about the noise his canaries were making in a garden aviary!!

cheers,

Mike

[kali]

Thanks,
We are in the Bayswater district and a chap named Wayne from Birdworld was adamant that the Baysie shire would not allow Sun Conures, because of the their screech.
Four of our five ajoining properties would not mind any noise, but there is one neighbour at the rear of our house that may be a problem. The grandkids hit some honkey nuts over the fence once and hit the roof of her garage. The grandkids apologised but she was quite snakey.
Do Ekkies have a piercing screech?

[kali]

Thanks Megan,

The aviaries are down at the rear of the yard, but it is only a 780sq mtr suburban block.

I know they conform to all other shire and calm regulations.

I just get so JEALOUS of all your big beautiful birds.

[meandem]

I have sunnies, eckies, and also ringnecks.

My suns are the loudest and just don't stop calling out to me. The only time they are quiet is when they are eating and sleeping (bit like kids really)

The ringnecks would come in a close second for noise. But it is not continuous. Mostly when strangers come into the yard.

My eckies are only noisy occassionally. Because they have all been handled at some stage, they talk more than they call out. We can often be sitting out the back when we here Cherry call out............."Where's Pickles" and then Pickles replies with "BOO".

I'm glad I don't live in an area where noise is a problem, otherwise I think my suns would have to go. They must be fairly strict where you are!

[Laraine]

That's a bit tough of your council to decide which species of birds you can keep. In my council we are allowed up to 40 birds. Council approval is required if the aviary is bigger than 14ft and must be 1 metre from the fenceline. Apart from that there are no restrictions. I have 2 Ringnecks and they can be really loud when wound up. There are stricter rules when it comes to poultry.

[silvercloud]

I would call the council and ask if there are any restrictions on keeping aviary birds.

[Lewis]

hey kali i would go with aussie birds such as galahs i say this from experience

i have very nice neighbours that adore my birds but if you dot have nice neighbours you can always say that when they are screeching a flock is going over the house which sounds like you do have thgem saying that you have galahs in your yard

my pair of galahs are outside but qare not that noisey only when corellas or galahs fly over is it when they scream and they onlky have a quick peep in the morning other then that they just are always talking to the dog or each other thats the bonus of having a talking bird

hope this helps

[vankarhi]

yeah I knew of chook regulations......more specifically Rooster regulations. I do worry about my birds noise at times because they can be loud....lucky it is not all day but fairly regular at times. I do have one neighbour who "sort of complains about some dogs and previously roosters in the area" ....... lucky so far it has not been mine, but she probably isn't game as her dog used to bark continuously when they were out and I kept saying "she didn't bother us"......which was true actually......we are fairly noise tolerant lol ;D

[angelicvampyre]

Hey have you looked into kings? yes they can be loud but my quakers and green cheeks where always louder then my king! Not only are they pretty to look at, you can sex them by sight which i think makes them even nicer as it looks like you have variety in your avairy. You might need a license for them but they are not that expensive and getting avairy pairs should not be hard (getting a HRed ones is another matter!) I find them to be one of the quieter birds in the sense that they will be happy to play by themselfs and only really like noises when something is up.

[kali]

Thanks Angelicvampyre,

I hadn't done any research on Kings as I don't think I have seen any at the few bird aviaries here in Perth.
I will do some research now as Elmo really looks a darling.
I have also sent the shire an email with a list of birds to see what they will or will not let me have.
It's a pity about the sun conures as both my husband and I fell in love with them.
I couldn't drag him away some that were boarding for the holidays at our local aviary,but also
I would not want to subject the neighbours to undue noise if it can be avoided.
Will post pics of the newbies to the family when we eventually decide.

[silvercloud]

Princesses are another that aren't too noisy and are beautiful birds. If you love suns so much maybe you should think about getting a handreared one and keeping it inside in a large cage. That way the noise is reduced for the neighbours

[vankarhi]

love your new avatar Jules ;D

[silvercloud]

Thanks. Elmo thought he'd pop his head in for a looksie ;D

[megzly]

Kali, i love my big birdies but sometimes they can be rather trying lol... for example starting up at 3 am in the morning and only shutting up if we go and sit with them. Hence why we use sleeping cages and sometimes they dont even work lol!

as others have said i would ring the council, Ive lived in Yokine (in a unit block), Glen Forrest, Cannington, Mandurah & Willeton and now on a little property and none of those have had restrictions on me keeping birds as long as the neighbours havent complained. As most know i have bloody loud birds too and ive been lucky to have great neighbours