Breeder responsibilities?

[josiedownunda]

Ok guys just want your opinions here.
Yesterday I sold a wf platino baby and a wflutino baby. Both were raised as handraised pets as they had that terrible bald patch....not huge but still there.
The person that bought them told me they wanted to use them to breed white birds. What should i have done. I didn't keep them myself as breeders because of the bald patches and I sold them as handraised babies.
What would you all have done?
Should I have said no to them when they wanted them to breed with because they are not good quality or do I just sell them and as long as I get my money close my eyes as to what they will be used for. I did point out the lack of feathering on the head.
I am feeling a bit bad now as I feel i have done the wrong thing letting them take the birds.
Jo-Anne

[AussieBirds]

My opinion for what it's worth Jo-Anne is that as long as you pointed out the short comings of the birds, and it appears you have, you have done the right thing.

John

[hillcresttiels]

And for what its worth from me.Firstly i would have told them that not all Handraised babies go on and make good breeders I stress here Not All as I know some breeders here have great success with them this way you have covered your behind.Secondly I would have told the reasoning behind the bald spots because sooner or later they will find out anyway hope i havn't offended you as this is how i would determine responsibilities.3rdly for you to come out and publicly detail what you have done only strengthens my thoughts on where you are heading as a breeder and that is straight to the top! Let this one be a lesson as we have all been guilty one time or another cheers Frank

[fischer]

Hi Jo-Anne, My opinion is much the same as John and Franks,
you pointed out the birds minor faults, and as you did, your responsibilty really ends there, whatever the new owner may do with the birds, pets or breeders, there can be no fault with the way you handled the purchase .
Cheers Tony

[josiedownunda]

Thanks guys for that. And Frank never think you have offended me by answering my questions honestly.....if I was going to be offended by hearing something I didn't like then i wouldn't have asked. I value the honesty on this group very much....it is the only way to learn. If I am wrong then tell me...loud and clear.....I want to do things right and if I'm not told I'm wrong then I will never know.
With regards to the bald spots on these birds...I am not convinced that they will stay there either. They are both young and since the feathers first appeared the hens seems to be lessening. In fact with her I had to brush the crest forward and part the feathers to see it....it may even fully cover.
Anyway thanks again for your opinions on this........I was honest with the sale so that seems to be the main issue. I guess once we sell the birds what happens to them or is done with then from that point is out of our hands.
Jo-Anne

[hillcresttiels]

Hi Jo regarding bald slots on the Ino varieties If they are there as young they will be there as adults.As the top of head feathers grow sometimes it will cover the patch but if you remember i asked if they might have been plucked as a lot of breeders do this to there young to get them out of the nestbox to recommence breeding,there might not be any physical signs of this happening apart from the bald spot cheers frank

[Catbird]

Hey Jo Anne,

Like the others said you did point out the faults to the person. If they are not going to show the birds the bald patch might not mean much to them.

Also, when we sell a bird, we can never be sure for what person a buyer wants the bird. We go by what they tell us and rely on their honesty, however we don't know how our birds will be housed, what they will be fed or if the birds will be treated well. Its something that I have thought of often. I once sold three spare males to a bird 'farm' as they had hundreds of tiels there. The next time I went (a few weeks later) they had only about 10. I asked what happened to them all and they said that they were put down because no one would buy them. I felt so sad because in my mind I had condemmed my birds to death.

I think we can only do as good as our judgement tells us. You did the right thing by telling the buyer about the 'defect'. He may have been very put off if you had told him you wouldn't sell him the birds at all, which could have been worse!

- Claire

[Viraba]

Jo-Anne,
You can't responsibility for what another adult will do with 'their' birds !!

I believe you've done the correct thing by pointing out what you believe could be a flaw and if they didn't say anything about wanting to breed from them in the first you'd be none the wiser !! You've pointed out the issue and possible problems, any future responsibility now sits fairly and squarely on the new owners.

I'd rest easy !

Viraba