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Post by billspets on Mar 12, 2005 10:37:20 GMT 10
hello all
i would like to hear your commens on the 2 differnt cages likes dislikes fors and againsts
as i am interested
regards
bill
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Post by kim1 on Mar 12, 2005 10:57:02 GMT 10
we've had both types, and we're sticking with the suspendeds from now on, they require no cleaning and ours are set high enough that we just mow under them, the birds are used to the mower and this causes no probs, also great if you have back problems as there is no bending if the doors are set at the right level, the doors are made so when we go to catch a bird our shoulders and body fill the door way and we have not had any trouble with the birds escapeing. It's no good for quails though.
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Post by ollie on Mar 12, 2005 11:09:21 GMT 10
Suspended gets my vote too!!!
I have all conventional except 1 suspended and I have been trying to figure out how I could make them all suspended without too much trouble. Haven't come up with anything yet but I hope I can.
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Post by hillcresttiels on Mar 12, 2005 11:23:09 GMT 10
And mine too! eliminates a lot of problems with diseases! ;D
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Post by lovemytiels on Mar 12, 2005 11:42:53 GMT 10
Well I have 1 suspended & the others are conventional. I like going into my avairies & interacting with my birds. Yes they are a lot more work but as mine have concrete floors it is not too much of a problem. I have more problems with my one suspended with the wild birds who carry more diseases, than with my others, so I will stick to the conventional ones. The wild birds can't get near them & I keep them spotless to prevent any likely diseases. Cheers Anna
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Post by AussieBirds on Mar 12, 2005 13:03:07 GMT 10
I have conventional avieries and have never had suspendeds although I must admit i do have the space to put one so who knows what may happen in the near future ;D ;D
John
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Post by Smiley on Mar 12, 2005 14:08:36 GMT 10
I have always had the conventional avairies.And have worked for people that have suspeneds.I am in the process of building some suspeneds right now...I do like the conventional...For I have a lot of tame ones...And they like to jump all over me..So they still will stay in the conventional ones..But I also have a lot of untame guys...So these one will go into suspendeds..It will save me a lot of time picking up from the floor..As I do find it hard to get down that far at times..
And also I think it does save on space as well..
It is just a matter of choice..And also lets fruit drop so that they cannot pick it back up from the floor....I still like both...
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Post by jeremy on Mar 13, 2005 9:37:49 GMT 10
I have all suspendeds and one conventional. Il like the suspendeds better because as Frank pointed out, there are no diseases and birds can't pick up bacteria from their droppings.
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Post by hillcresttiels on Mar 13, 2005 11:56:49 GMT 10
Hey Jeremy i have had tiels for a long time and I must say worming is almost not an issue as every dropping passes thru the flooring.... ;D concrete floors i find create conditions that are humid and suspect to disease especially when wet and unless your there scrubbing and scraping the floors every hour droppings will be eaten!...  also my roofs are totally covered as i dont like the idea of wild birds sitting above the open wired tops of cages!..as good as it is for sunlight and D3 the risks of imported foeces and diseases far outweigh the benefits.  Also its amazing how quickly you can blast clean a suspended using one of those $50 pressure washers.I also like to make sure that all wire is fitted to the inside of the suspended frames as to not alllow places for droppings to rest on the frame. ;D cheers Frank |
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Post by billspets on Mar 13, 2005 14:06:35 GMT 10
ok so it seems that the general consensis is that the suspended cage are mainly use so what is the general size that is in use
regards
bill
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Post by hillcresttiels on Mar 13, 2005 16:00:36 GMT 10
Hey Bill if you work in modules of 900 or 1200mm it works well for wire sizes in which 900mm wide x900 high x1800 long is a good starting point or 1200x 2400 x1200 for larger species! ;D
Frank
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Post by billspets on Mar 13, 2005 19:17:31 GMT 10
ok for all there is has fors and againsts for both me personaly will be sticking to the conventional cages
reasons being
1 i have quails in most of my cages and 2 i need to be able to get a wheelchair in the cages as well
regards
bill
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Post by Viraba on Mar 13, 2005 20:12:28 GMT 10
Good-day Bill,
Thought I'd add my 2cents worth.
I have both suspendeds and conventionals. Often it can depend on what birds you're keeping as to how you can get the benfits of each type. I personally wouldn't keep lorrikeets in a conventional cage. They're messy little so-in-so's so I've got all mine in suspendends.
I've seen 2 designs for suspends that I really liked and they were kind of 'mixed' set-ups.
Design 1 was a conventional at the back and had a suspended flight balcony for the front. You could get into the back of the cage for cleaning that part of the avairy that was on the ground and catching your birds but the major portion of the cage was suspended.
Design 2 suspended actually had a slide-out tray half-way along the cage in which you could put avairy gravel so the birds actually had some "ground" to walk around on. These were build as units of 2 and the tray slid out from the front when you wanted to replace the gravel. All the roosts/ perches etc were still located above open wire though.
I have my suspendeds with the front built into the front fence of my chicken coop. That way the chooks keep under them very clean and any dropped seed/ fruit etc is quickly devoured by the chickens. This has helped keep 'outsiders' (wild birds) from coming around too much as the chickens don't leave much for them to get to. I also know that the chickens are regularly wormed/ mite srayed etc so it works well. I don't need to mow under them either as the chooks eat anything that looks like trying to sprout under them.
The floor of my conventional is a 150mm bed of 20mm round gravel held in by sleepers on which my avairies are sitting. Under the sleepers I've got a concrete 'rat-wall' and under the gravel I have 5x5mm gal bird wire so mice and rats can't dig in under them. I find this is really easy to clean (I use a $50 water pressure gun as well) and the area drains really quickly after rain. My only thing would be that if you're going to take a wheel chair into the avairy then it would be hard pushing on this gravel floor. You may need to go with something solid.
Cheers
Viraba
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Post by Smiley on Mar 14, 2005 17:45:44 GMT 10
Hi Viabra,
I was thinking about putting chicks under the suspeneds...But I was worried about mixing parrots with chickens...But then I was thinking,well I have quails.They would be the same thing as chickens..My chickens are healthy..But I am still not 100% shore about putting them under the suspends...I mite think about the larger quails..But I think they smell to much..So there are so many if's and but"s..To know what to do...
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Post by Viraba on Mar 14, 2005 19:12:51 GMT 10
I haven't got the chickens housed under the suspendeds full time. They can browse under them all day but they get locked up in their coop (which is in another area of the coop) each night.
Cheers
Viraba
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Post by AussieBirds on Mar 15, 2005 9:17:34 GMT 10
I guess they would keep the area under the aviaries clean.
John
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also my roofs are totally covered as i dont like the idea of wild birds sitting above the open wired tops of cages!..as good as it is for sunlight and D3 the risks of imported foeces and diseases far outweigh the benefits. 
Also its amazing how quickly you can blast clean a suspended using one of those $50 pressure washers.I also like to make sure that all wire is fitted to the inside of the suspended frames as to not alllow places for droppings to rest on the frame. ;D cheers