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Post by bigdaddyado on May 10, 2011 21:39:04 GMT 10
I am planning on waiting and buying my Eccy from Parrotpackage as I am extremely impressed with them so far.
I could pick up a bird tomorrow from other dealers but I feel very comfortable when dealing with PP.
Has anyone here dealt with them before?
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Post by flossy on May 11, 2011 12:34:31 GMT 10
Perhaps you could ask them for references or check their site to see if they have feedback from previous customers? If you feel comfortable with PP - go for it! I have heard mixed reviews but I haven't personally dealt with them, so I can't comment....they do have some gorgeous birds available though  Goodluck!! |
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Post by bigdaddyado on May 11, 2011 15:27:49 GMT 10
What were the mixed reviews that you heard?
I have already read through the website. I want to hear others opinions.
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Post by bigdaddyado on May 11, 2011 16:51:25 GMT 10
I have searched and searched and I am yet to find a bad review. I have found a couple of "I have heard mixed reviews" or "I have heard bad things" but absolutely no detail and it all appears to be second hand opinions.
If anyone has something to say that they don't want to post please pm me.
Cheers
Ado
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Post by flossy on May 11, 2011 21:21:46 GMT 10
Hi Ado Everyone has different opinions and is entitled to their say. If you are comfortable and happy with the Parrot Package, as I said, go for it. I believe they give a health guarantee with their birds and they provide a follow up to the people who purchase their birds. Trust your own instincts  |
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Post by bigdaddyado on May 14, 2011 20:25:52 GMT 10
I went down to Wollongong today to check out PP and was very impressed. Her birds were in great health and everything was very clean. She was very nice and a pleasure to deal with. Hopefully the baby she has at the moment is a cock. If so he is mine. |
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Post by flossy on May 15, 2011 8:37:28 GMT 10
Awesome news.....fingers crossed for you!
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Post by Robyn on May 15, 2011 8:46:46 GMT 10
Congratulations & fingers crossed it's a male. I have heard some good reports about PP. They have been around for a long time. I think when people complain about a bird they bought it's not really the breeder/hand- rearers fault when the bird doesn't turn out the way it's expected to. A lot depends on the new owner & how they have been educated on the handling of their new bird. Just because it's been hand reared doesn't mean your going to have a happy ever after or have a few hic cups in the beginning. It's all about trust building. |
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Post by avinet on May 15, 2011 11:32:30 GMT 10
Congratulations & fingers crossed it's a male. I think when people complain about a bird they bought it's not really the breeder/hand- rearers fault when the bird doesn't turn out the way it's expected to. A lot depends on the new owner & how they have been educated on the handling of their new bird. Just because it's been hand reared doesn't mean your going to have a happy ever after or have a few hic cups in the beginning. It's all about trust building. One of the real problems with young birds and new owners is that we tend to generalize about a species' personality - like African Greys are great talkers, and female cockatiels love to be cuddled - but birds are individuals and they don't always stick to the stereotype we set up for them. And if you tell a prospective buyer that most Greys are great talkers or most female cockatiels love a scratch then they forget about the " most" and translate it into " all" - then when they end up with one of the exceptions they complain. Or you tell them that the sweet baby Alexandrine they are taking home will try it on at first, test the limits and generally behave like a rebellious teenager and they have to work through it and it will quickly turn back into the sweet big bird they first saw. Then the first time the get their finger mouthed they come back complaining about a nasty bird. A nasty Alex would take the finger off if it wanted not give a gentle mouth of the finger  After 20 years of selling birds to the public I am convinced that most only listen to one word in three - and that word is never the verb in the sentence. You can educate all you like - with some people it is a complete waste of time  cheers, Mike |
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Post by meandem on May 16, 2011 14:54:37 GMT 10
After 20 years of selling birds to the public I am convinced that most only listen to one word in three - and that word is never the verb in the sentence. You can educate all you like - with some people it is a complete waste of time cheers, Mike ;D Just quietly chuckling away to myself.  |
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Post by just4birds on May 24, 2011 21:06:52 GMT 10
probably a bit late ... but anywayyy I use to be friends with Trish from Parrot Package .. until I realised she is a bird dealer/broker and doesn't breed the birds herself most of the time ... So each to their own if they want to support the buying and selling of unweaned birds |
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Post by avinet on May 24, 2011 21:27:41 GMT 10
probably a bit late ... but anywayyy I use to be friends with Trish from Parrot Package .. until I realised she is a bird dealer/broker and doesn't breed the birds herself most of the time ... So each to their own if they want to support the buying and selling of unweaned birds I have no problem with baby birds being passed on to very experienced hand raisers such as Parrot Package - I used to buy baby birds myself to hand rear for our shop. The only problem comes with baby birds being sold to inexperienced people to hand rear. Judging from what I have heard of Parrot Package they probably do a darn sight better job of hand rearing and socialising baby birds than most breeders do, and it is a completely different situation from the selling of babies to first time hand rearers. cheers, Mike |
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Post by bigdaddyado on May 24, 2011 21:27:50 GMT 10
probably a bit late ... but anywayyy I use to be friends with Trish from Parrot Package .. until I realised she is a bird dealer/broker and doesn't breed the birds herself most of the time ... So each to their own if they want to support the buying and selling of unweaned birds I am well aware of what she does and doesn't do. What difference does it make if the person that breeds the bird raises it or someone else raises it? |
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Post by just4birds on May 25, 2011 9:57:31 GMT 10
You are probably right Mike .. She does do a better job then most people and for that big THUMBS UP ... It's my opinion if i don't like people buying unweaned birds .. just because Parrot Package does a good job at it .. doesn't mean the next lot will do it right .. I've seen to many eclectus parrots being sold unweaned and then have a heap of trouble with screaming and behaviour issues that new parrot people have to deal with .. Everyone is allowed to agree or disagree don't forget Good luck and hopefully you'll get a great Eclectus parrot !! |
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Post by avinet on May 25, 2011 11:28:03 GMT 10
The key words are experienced and inexperienced! I never condone the selling of babies to inexperienced buyers to hand rear. I learnt that lesson back around 1992 when, in my innocence back in those days, I sold a cockatiel to someone at 4 weeks and they promptly managed to kill it. Never again - from that point on I never sold another baby before it was properly weaned, and we got plenty wanting to buy them in the shop. That myth about needing to raise a baby to enable it to bond with you is takings a long time to die!
And I can certainly agree about Eclectus - I cringe every time I see them advertised for hand rearing - they are a very complex bird that are not easy to properly raise, and very easy to make a mess of!
cheers,
Mike
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Post by twr on May 25, 2011 11:51:51 GMT 10
I went down to Wollongong today to check out PP and was very impressed. Her birds were in great health and everything was very clean. She was very nice and a pleasure to deal with. Hopefully the baby she has at the moment is a cock. If so he is mine. Hi Ado just curious as to what appeals to you about a cock more than a hen? Do you already have a hen, or you prefer the look & temperament of the male of the species? |
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Post by flossy on May 25, 2011 11:53:00 GMT 10
I'm a small time breeder and hand rearer....and I won't sell my babies unweaned either. I think it is wrong. People ask me all the time....it will bond with me better if I do it....blah blah is what I say to that! It sure is a myth that people won't let go. (Then these same people who don't buy my birds, have bought babies to raise elsewhere and call me to help them when their baby is half dead!! As they DIDN'T listen to my advice!!  ) I'm looking forward to the challenge of raising my first clutch of Eckies - if and when that happens - I will be hitting you all up for advice!! I've done a lot of hand rearing....obviously not as much as you guys have - but I am confident enough to do it. Having done a huge variety of birds from Budgies to Macaws......... I've made my mistakes along the way as we all have, but I have learnt and taken on board everything that works for me and gone from there. I think the thing with PP that a lot of people don't like is that fact that she offers very little money for the birds you have raised and then on-sells them at a MUCH higher price than what she bought them for, and for doing nothing. It's of course up to the individual if they sell them to her, but she can be quite insulting with her price offers and has taken advantage of some very naive people..... THIS IS MY OPINION AND BASED ON PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND THOSE OF FRIENDS. In the end, if you are happy with the bird you are purchasing, and the person you are buying it from and the health, price and support etc - then that is your choice...... |
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Post by bigdaddyado on May 25, 2011 12:23:54 GMT 10
Personally I think that is ridiculous. No one is obligated to sell her anything. If they don't like the price she is willing to pay they don't have to accept her offer. She is trying to make money so of course she will try and buy them as cheap as possible.
You state that she sells them and does nothing. She is raising the baby for me for several months. I wouldn't consider that nothing.
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Post by bigdaddyado on May 25, 2011 12:25:00 GMT 10
I went down to Wollongong today to check out PP and was very impressed. Her birds were in great health and everything was very clean. She was very nice and a pleasure to deal with. Hopefully the baby she has at the moment is a cock. If so he is mine. Hi Ado just curious as to what appeals to you about a cock more than a hen? Do you already have a hen, or you prefer the look & temperament of the male of the species? I do prefer both the look and temperament of the males over the females. |
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Post by flossy on May 25, 2011 12:49:11 GMT 10
Personally I think that is ridiculous. No one is obligated to sell her anything. If they don't like the price she is willing to pay they don't have to accept her offer. She is trying to make money so of course she will try and buy them as cheap as possible. You state that she sells them and does nothing. She is raising the baby for me for several months. I wouldn't consider that nothing. I DIDN'T say she does this with ALL birds ok? I said she buys and resells a lot without doing anything. She also pays people to handrear for her. All well known facts. Goodluck to her!! If that is what works for her, then YAY! ;D Of course nobody is obligated to sell her anything, as I said, people have been offended by the prices she has offered, so refuse to sell to her. I could list several TRUE stories here, but there is no point!!!! As I DID state, this is MY opinion and based on MY experiences and those of MY friends. I have nothing against Trish - she has some amazing birds! Good luck to her. I am NOT being ridiculous, we are all allowed to voice our OPINIONS, afterall, isn't that the reason YOU asked in the first place? AS I ALSO stated, if you are happy with the bird, the health of the bird, the person you are buying from, then go for it! The BIRD is what is important here....... Thank you. |
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