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Post by dcmbalthazar on Mar 14, 2012 4:51:34 GMT 10
Hello, friends.
Let me introduce myself first.
My name is David and I'm from Sao Paulo, Brazil.
I have bought my first cockatiel on september 2011 and since then I've been researching about cockatiels on internet with very enthusiasm.
Currently, I am moderator of one of the biggest cockatiels forum on Brazil and we have a veterinary that help us with health issues.
Still, we struggle against the indiscriminate creation of Cockatiels, responsible for the spread of many diseases, especially psittacosis and mycoplasmosis.
What I would like to hear from you you friends is, is whether mycoplasmosis is a specific problem that you face in breeding, how do you face it and the current Australian's veterinary medicine considers this disease as curable.
Another thing I want to know from you is you friends is about some mutations. In Brazilwe do not have some mutations that you have there, like olive, platinum, silver and pastelface.
Arrived to us a news that the Australian Government forbade the departure of Australian's birds fauna of the country. Is that true?
I really appreciate the attention from you and congratulate you for this forum and his vast knowledge of this bird that is so fantastic.
Best regards!
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Post by avinet on Mar 14, 2012 13:11:57 GMT 10
Hello, friends. Let me introduce myself first. My name is David and I'm from Sao Paulo, Brazil. Hi David, and welcome to the Forum - I suspect you might be the first to join from Brazil!! Hopefully we can be of help, and we look forward to hearing more about bird keeping in Brazi - and of course photos Mycoplasmosis is not that commonly diagnosed in Australia - but having said that it is likely that many cases go undiagnosed or are assumed to be Psittacosis, the symptoms being similar. Psittacosis is certainly a significant disease in our cockatiels. Treatment for both Psittacosis and Mycoplasmosis has usually been with Doxycycline, with often a 6 week course of treatment being needed. Ideally that will be by weekly injection rather than medicated water. Sometimes a mycoplasmosis infection can be persistent, not because the doxycycline isn't effective but sinus infections in birds are notoriously difficult to treat since there is a poor blood supply to the sinus area and so the antibiotic isn't as effective. That is correct - the export of our native birds is generally prohibited. However some parrots can be taken out if they have been kept as pet birds for a period of time before a person leaves the country. With Galahs, Sulphur-crested Cockatoos and Corellas, a maximum of two can be taken, and with Budgies and Cockatiels I think it is five birds. Those birds have to have been kept as a pet for I think 24 months before leaving, and documentation, including photos of them in a pet situation, and vet records will be needed to prove they have been family pets. I think all the mutations you mention are also in Europe and the USA so I would think that Brazilian breeders might be able to source them from those areas since Australia isn't an option. Cockatiels are great little birds - I have 6 as house pets, ranging from 16 to 20 years old, as well as 9 retired breeders in an outside aviary. cheers, Mike
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Post by dcmbalthazar on Mar 14, 2012 23:19:29 GMT 10
Mr. Avinet, I'm really really glad with your answer. Thanks for the kindness! Here is a photo from my two cockatiels, Julio Cesar and Magali: Psittacosis is the biggest plague for our cockatiels too, we lost many birds with it. This is so true that when we buy a bird, the first recommendation is to do a stool examination to investigate the presence of bacteria in the feces. Here, in any conjunctivitis, the first suspect is always the psittacosis. When I bought my cockatiels, I made tests for psittacosis, mycoplasmosis, bornavirus, Pacheco's disease, polyomavirus, and a parasitological test with search for coccidiosis. I spent more money with the tests than with the birds, but I do not regret, on the contrary, I say it was worth every penny. Unfortunately, not everyone thinks like me. Generally people buy birds in shops without having control of anything and look for us when the bird has diarrhea, prostrate, with conjunctivitis and so on. This is a reality that we are trying to change and I have faith in God that we will have a tighter control of the health of animals sold in Brazil in general. About psittacosis treatment, our partner veterinary indicates 45 days of doxycycline on the water. Injections, only when the bird is very debilitated. Perhaps these injections in the case of mycoplasmosis can make a difference in treatment, I'll talk to him about it. Thank you very much for the information. Moreover, and this is what gives me hope for better days, we have breeders of exceptional quality, who love their animals and breed them for love. Some of these breeders that I know, dream on getting birds from these mutations that I have quoted. What good do they exist in other countries. We will try to import from some friendly country. Once we have some progress, I come here to tell you ... lol. Generally these breeders pays the first veterinarian consult for each bird they sell, and I think this is a good thing. I'm in love with my cockatiels. I pretend that they live with me for 20 years like yours lol ;D What is the basic diet that you give to them? Here in Brazil we have many veterinaries that recomend that seeds must be avoided, because they have aflatoxins that damages the bird's liver. We commonly use extruded feed, a flour composed with dehydrated corn and eggs, enriched with probiotics, some fruits and vegetables. I give seeds to them only when I get home, becoming available to them for one hour per day maximum. They eat a little and when I see that they are satisfied, I retire the seeds from them. The seed mix that I give to them is composed with: grain of millet, canary seed, wheat, oats bark, flaxseed, millet, black, red millet, white millet, sesame meal and soybean meal. Sunflower seed I only use for tidbit, offering one or two seeds on a week, but no more. Here in Brazil there is a culture that sunflower seeds are high fat and should be avoided for birds in captivity. Thanks for all!
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