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Post by gumby on Apr 16, 2012 14:57:33 GMT 10
Hi all, this is my stud male Eccie named "Apples", he got the name from my 7 yr old son because when i brought the bird home there was a piece of apple in the cage, so thats what my son called him. Attachments:
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Post by gumby on Apr 16, 2012 15:11:39 GMT 10
Here's Apples mrs Attachments:
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Post by gumby on Apr 16, 2012 15:12:49 GMT 10
Blue Quakers Attachments:
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Post by gumby on Apr 16, 2012 15:13:33 GMT 10
And my Alex cock Attachments:
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Post by gumby on Apr 19, 2012 21:16:33 GMT 10
This is my new 7yr old Eclectus hen i just picked up tonight. She is very tame, says hello to herself(hello gretchen),whistles very loudly,lol. Tonight my 7yr old son has Gretchen sleeping in his room, my son has a large indoor cage and is patiently waiting for the right baby Eclectus for himself. If you look closely at the photo, near my thumb you will see some blue feathers on Gretchens wings(i will get better shots tomorrow), she has a couple of small blue feather patches where it should be maroon on her wings. I am wondering though about the extra blue feathers, of corse i am hoping that Gretchens chicks inherit the blue feathering along with a bit more. Cheers, Scott Attachments:
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Post by gumby on Apr 20, 2012 19:05:08 GMT 10
Hey all, as i said yesterday here's a better pic of the extra blue feathering patches on Gretchen. See on her wing. Does anyone have any knowledge about this ? Cheers, Scott Attachments:
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Post by avinet on Apr 20, 2012 20:47:03 GMT 10
I'm no expert on Eclectus,but a look through some books failed to show anything like the blue patch on Gletchen's wings. Is it the same on both the left and right wings?"
If you like I can forward the photo along to some big Eclectus breeders I know in the USA.
It is likely that only breeding will show if it is anything significant.
cheers,
Mike
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Post by gumby on Apr 21, 2012 7:54:07 GMT 10
Hi Avinet,
There is another smaller patch of blue but it's not symetrical, if thats what you mean.
Yes please send the pic for further clarification.
Of corse i am hoping Gretchens young will acquire more of the blue feathering. I know someone who has a lovely 4 yr old tame male, I hope to go put a deposit on him today.
Looks like it's back in the books again to educate myself further on colour morphs and genetics.
Cheers,
Scotty
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Post by Jack on Apr 21, 2012 22:12:01 GMT 10
I am a major fan of mutations in parrots but it has never really befallen to me that mutations occur in Eclectus parrots until now. After doing a bit of research I have found a few websites worth looking at. But nowhere can I find anything about blue patches on the wings. The following link is from the Land of Vos- Birds of a Different Feather site. It has a few different stories to tell and well worth the read for anyone with some spare time. www.landofvos.com/DifferentColors/main.htmlThe next link is from the Parrot Paradise forum and doesn’t really have any info just a picture of another nice Eclectus mutation. Someone does mention though that it may be a mutation but one that comes through after a period of time like Lipizzans and grey horses, they’re born black but get lighter as they get older. I know you only purchased her the other day but do you know if she hatched with these colours or did they develop over time?www.parrotparadiseforum.com/t526-eclectus-mutationThe next link also suggests the same theory; just click on ‘unexpected/unusual changes in feather colouration’ under ‘feathers’. www.avianweb.com/featherdisorders.html#colorThis link isn’t specifically just on Eclectus parrots; it’s on all sorts of birds like Amazons and African Greys. www.freewebs.com/windsongaviary/mutationsandhybrids.htmHope something here may help or support and new idea. If not it sure is interesting and a good read. ;D |
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Post by gumby on Apr 22, 2012 8:38:57 GMT 10
Hi Jack, Thank you for the links, i will have a look. I don't know if Gretchen has had these blue feathers from hatch or they developed but she is 7 year old so i don't think the blue will moult out. I have been searching through my bird books and came across the ABK publication, guide to Eclectus parrots by Dr Rob Marshall and Ian Ward. There is a few pics of Blue Ecky's and a few other colours as well but Blue being the only established mutation. As this book explains, there is acquired colouration which dosen't reproduce in the young, then there is genetic mutation, which is what i am hoping for. Cheers, Scott Attachments:
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Post by gumby on Apr 22, 2012 8:42:58 GMT 10
Blue Ecky's from the ABK book by Dr Rob Marshall and Ian Ward. Jack, those links are good, have you seen the lutino blue and gold macaw that Priam have ? I think they call her "Shamballa" and there is a sibling named "Sundance" who displays normal feather. You have to look forums.avianavenue.com/macaw-motorway/65488-gold-factor-blue-gold-macaw-2.htmlAbsolutely stunning bird !!! Cheers, Scott Attachments:
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Post by Robyn on Apr 23, 2012 7:04:36 GMT 10
Hello Gumby, Another Eclectus owner. Great. I have seen a lot of birds with colour through the wings, males with big red bloches on the chest, females with heaps of green through the wings. Funny enough they don't disappear with a moult either but comes back almost identical.  Pic of the orange looking hens i was breeding. An aquired colour as it moulted out in the first moult. The males even had orange instead of red under the wings. I honestly put it down to some health products recommended by an avian vet caused the problem. I don't use any supps what so ever & the problem is gone. |
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Post by gumby on Apr 23, 2012 9:45:36 GMT 10
Hey Robyn, Nice looking orange on those hens, it's a pity it was acquired mutation and not genetic. I don't trust these so called avian vets who recommend certain products, there is a certain vet who developed a special suppliment programe(he owns the supps) for Ecky's. Without looking back into it, you needed to buy 5 bottles of different supps which end up costing roughly from memory around $300 per month per pair, rediculous especially for breeders as we would have to sell young for about $3000 each to cover the cost of making the certain vets wallet fatter. The only supps i use for my Ecky's is, Ornithon vitamins sprinkled on fruit and veg twice weekly and calcium powder when the hen is laying. Gretchen is 7 yrs old so i am sure the blue feather won't moult out, i just got all my fingers crossed that some of her young develop more blue  Well only time will tell and it will take years to develop a blue mutation so we will see what happens when Gretchen has some chicks I have heard from a large breeder(he has lutino quakers, $25,000 for a cock) there is already a blue Ecky mutation in Oz, just not quite ready for release yet, the supposed release price will be $30,000 per bird   Cheers, Scotty |
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Post by Jack on Apr 23, 2012 21:52:48 GMT 10
That is one stunning bird Gumby! Kinda reminds me of albino diamond and carpet pythons  |
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Post by gumby on Apr 26, 2012 16:59:26 GMT 10
Hi all, This afternoon i was offered 2k for Gretchen, i refused ! I would not sell Gretchen and i just put a deposit on a lovely 4yr old tame male for her. He had no chance  Oh Jack , the yellow Eckys aren't mine, they Robyn's . Cheers, Scotty |
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Post by Jack on Apr 30, 2012 7:44:28 GMT 10
Yeah i knew that. Probably should have stated it but i ment the Lutino macaw reminded me of albino pythons lol sorry
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