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Post by hillcresttiels on Oct 30, 2004 19:01:28 GMT 10
Ok Looks like the French have beaten us again i have heard of an All Blackfaced Tiel looking forward to some pics, believed to be a Semi Dominant mutation
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Post by AussieBirds on Oct 30, 2004 21:17:08 GMT 10
Wow Frank I think we are all looking forward to the pics, any information on the breeding?
John
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Post by hillcresttiels on Oct 31, 2004 7:20:56 GMT 10
Hi John apparently it first appeared in a Belgium aviary and susequent offspring where sent to France were it was then put to a dominant silver variety and ended up with what they have called a Black Headed sounds inapproriate to me i perhaps would have called it a Masked Variety, as soon as i get photos i will try and publish them,cheers Frank
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Post by lovemytiels on Oct 31, 2004 9:38:32 GMT 10
Well well well Frank. I remember talking to you on chat one night about the blackfaced tiel & you said that you were only having a joke with Bill. So it is true. Can't wait to see some pics as i rekon they will look good. Cheers for now Anna. ;D
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Post by senn on Oct 31, 2004 9:56:32 GMT 10
certainly will look interesting. looking forward to the pictures.
what will they develop next? blue-faced? *lol*
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Post by hillcresttiels on Oct 31, 2004 10:06:16 GMT 10
Hi Anna I have to say i remember the chat and the Joke but can honestly say that at that time i knew nothing of it's existence cheers Frank  |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Nov 3, 2004 16:22:11 GMT 10
Well Guys here are the 1st pics of Blackheaded Cockatiels a big thanks to Shawn for passing them on.You will notice the darkness which appeared on the Dominant Silver Variety and Also on a what looks to me a (Whitefaced) Blackheaded Hen.My opinion is they look Ordinary cheers Frank  Above is a Black Headed Dominant Silver  Dominant Silver on the left and Black Headed Hen(Par Blue) on the Left  Another shot of the two mentioned above |
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Post by senn on Nov 3, 2004 17:55:49 GMT 10
frank, thanks for showing us.
if you bred that as a dark grey and got rid of the white wing stripes it'd almost be all black.
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Post by AussieBirds on Nov 3, 2004 18:43:35 GMT 10
Hi Frank I'm not impressed with the colour at all, rather plain looking i think.
John
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Post by pollyparrot on Nov 4, 2004 5:34:23 GMT 10
no they are cute as of course they are birdies but not at all black looks more like a dull grey not pretty at all
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Post by josiedownunda on Nov 4, 2004 6:17:19 GMT 10
Well if that's the best they have to offer then they can keep it. I have a wf pied that is a dirty-face that is not unlike that........I look on the dirty-face as inferior pieds so i guess that about sums up my feelings on it. Thanks for the pics Frank and keeping us up front with whats happening out in the big wide world. Maybe over time and selective breeding this new mutation may become a bit more appealing.....lets hope so!
Jo-Anne
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Post by hillcresttiels on Nov 4, 2004 9:00:16 GMT 10
Hi Jo-Anne I was sitting back studying the phootos thinking where could you go with these varieties and the only thought that crossed my mind was a Clear Pied (Totally Yellow Bird) with a Black Head Hmmmm....! cheers Frank  |
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Post by eckie on Nov 4, 2004 9:19:04 GMT 10
hi
frank the pics are good.
i have seen some nice tiels but that doesnt do
much for me looks plain.
i like the pieds very nice tiels
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Post by Catbird on Nov 4, 2004 12:31:02 GMT 10
Same as Jo-anne - my WF Pied male has a all white face with a black cheek patch. Nothing unusual about that, I see it quite frequently in both WF and normal pieds. Usually 'dirty' pieds carry this, where the pied pattern is not clean sections of black and white. Also wf hens have little white on the face.
Perhaps this is more of a case of selective breeding to produce birds with more black on the face - but the darker charcoal colour on the bird on the right is interesting, its certainly a darker bird.
I'd be interested to know if they have bred the mutation out and the tried to reproduce the results in the second or third generation?
- Claire
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Post by lovemytiels on Nov 4, 2004 13:16:53 GMT 10
Thanks for the pics frank. i would have to say yuck yuck yuck & i like most of the mutations of tiels. They look like they could do with some meat on their bones too. My babys are fatter than them lol. Now if it was a really dark grey & a bit more meat on them then it might look good, otherwise i would have to agree with the term dirty looking. Anyway thanks for providing us with these pics 7 info. Cheers for now Anna  |
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Post by Zack on Nov 4, 2004 13:35:15 GMT 10
Thanks for the insight Frank. I think I have to agree with everyone else here and say they don't really appeal to me.
They look like they have stuck their head up a chimney! I like the silver but with the "black head" it just dirties them and makes them look a bit mismatched.
Be interesting to see what else they have in the pipelines at the moment.
Kazz
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Post by josiedownunda on Nov 4, 2004 14:11:44 GMT 10
Now that may be an interesting bird Frank. A rich deep yellow with a black head may look quite stunning actually. Maybe it is the silver that makes the bird look almost 'anaemic'...for want of a better word. Looks so plae and washed out but a clear pied?  ...hmmm.......that would be worth seeing! Jo-Anne |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Nov 4, 2004 18:12:50 GMT 10
Hi here are some more photos from a breeder in California who bought the birds in Brazil thanxs again Shawn for the photos. Now I'm not so sure Jo about a Clear Pied look how Black head shows here verY siffused  Although the Young Dominant Silver in the nest look Ok but as they mature the face will Darken still not sure  cheers Frank |
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...hmmm.......that would be worth seeing!