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Post by rubberducky on Aug 1, 2005 7:07:59 GMT 10
FIRST I WANT TO THANK ALL WHOM HAVE ANSWERED TO MY POSTED . THANK YOU VERY MUCH !
Im hopeing to get some ideas in breeding.
I've resently bought 3 new tiels This is what i was told they are by the breeder .1 recessive yellowcheek pied,1 recessive yellowcheek split to fallow and 1 dominant single factor silver . My question is on the silver i would like to make a pastel silver or a yellow cheek silver , but dont know how to go about this,On the split to fallow i would love to get some fallows, It would be a great thing if i could spread it around i meen the yellow fase to other mutations , any ideas?
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Post by billspets on Aug 1, 2005 7:34:06 GMT 10
FIRST I WANT TO THANK ALL WHOM HAVE ANSWERED TO MY POSTED . THANK YOU VERY MUCH ! Im hopeing to get some ideas in breeding. I've resently bought 3 new tiels This is what i was told they are by the breeder .1 recessive yellowcheek pied,1 recessive yellowcheek split to fallow and 1 dominant single factor silver . My question is on the silver i would like to make a pastel silver or a yellow cheek silver , but dont know how to go about this,On the split to fallow i would love to get some fallows, It would be a great thing if i could spread it around i meen the yellow fase to other mutations , any ideas? hello rubberducky well i must admit the fellows and the silvers are lovely looking birds and would love to see a pic of your birds (if possible ) but as far as the genetic goes i am out of my league but the best person to answerer your question would be Frank (Hillcrest tiels) as he is our resident genetic expert regards bill |
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Post by rubberducky on Aug 1, 2005 8:29:13 GMT 10
Thanks Bill. as soon as i figer out how to put pics up i will lol. Hope Frank will help me Tony
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Post by billspets on Aug 1, 2005 8:36:37 GMT 10
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Post by lovemytiels on Aug 1, 2005 11:22:17 GMT 10
Hi Tony, sounds like you have some very lovely birds there. I would love to have the dominent yellowcheek tiels sigh one day LOL. Do you happen to know the sex of the new tiels yet? As Bill said Frank is the Bomb when it comes to genetics & will certainly love to help you. Look forward to seeing some pics of your new fids. Cheers Anna
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Post by hillcresttiels on Aug 1, 2005 16:59:15 GMT 10
Hello Rubberducky as far as I know if your in Australia you have been given a bums steer about your tiels genetics.There are no such birds as far as i am aware here or overseas that are Recessive Yellowcheeks. There is a rumour getting around of sex-linked and dominant yellow cheeks in Australia but this is very very rare. The dominant single factor silver is only available overseas if you fall into this category then maybe i can help but if your from Australia then you have been misguided.Unless you have Pastelface which some call yellowcheeks which this is far from correct! cheers
Frank
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Post by rubberducky on Aug 1, 2005 23:09:26 GMT 10
Hi Franck
Thank you very much for your reply!
I am Tonys (rubberducky) wife, he is at work right now and asked me to write you.
We live in United States, California, and we do have yellowckeeks, i already figuered that there is no such thing as a recessiv yellowcheek (but neverthless there are sites on the net that are talking about a recessiv yellowcheek, which may confuse a breeder because yellowcheek is pretty new mutation). The breeder that sold us his yellowcheeks is a friend of my husband and he would not lie about the cockatiels, he propably got mixed up and what they really are is sex-linked.
Now since it is not easy to get yellowckeek babys from this birds we tought you can help us and tell us what would be the best thing to do. I tought about putting them (they are both females, one is yellowckeek pied and the other is yellowckeek split to fallow) with males that are not whitefaces or not split to whiteface, breed them and then take their chicks(which will be split to yellowckeek males) and breed them back to the mothers or so we don't inbreed breed them to the other yellowckeek hen.
I was wondering what cocks should we use to breed with this hens?
I read everywhere that you shouldn't put a sex-linked yellowckeek with a whiteface or split to whiteface bird, but if i do like i planed before but instead of a normal cock take a whiteface won't they have at the end the yellowcheek chicks which also will be split to whiteface?
And i have a last question about the dominant single factor silver, my husband want to get whiteface silver chicks and i hope you can help him and tell him what hen he should use on the silver cock.
PS: Tony can't wait for your reply, this is a great site and it's amazing to get advice from people that are professionals and know what they are talking about, Thank you all so very much for you help and advice!!!
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Post by hillcresttiels on Aug 2, 2005 16:47:54 GMT 10
Hi Tony and Co glad you have cleared that up for me. The only available Yellow Cheek which we will define as YC are Sex linked and Dominant and not recessive these are names given to the Pastel face varieties which is better known as Par-Blue. I am led to believe your birds are sex linked YC therefore yes you will produce offspring males that are Grey and split to YC,these then can be placed backed to mum or the other YC hen to produce YC of both sexes! What cocks would I use ?The perfect scenario would be to find a Fallow Pied or Pied split Fallow former preferred and place him to the YC split pied hen then in future breeding one of the offspring males produced can be placed to other YC hen to produce YC Fallows and YC Fallow Pieds! With the YC split Fallow hen I would mate her to a nice Heavy Pied male as fallow should not be Mixed with any other mutant gene! then you will have a pool of offspring which can be chopped and changed to produce the desired results. With the Dominant single factor silver being Dominant 50% of all young produced of both sexes will be single factor dominant silvers the other 50% will be Grey's! therefore I suggest you place him to a Pure Whiteface hen which then gives you offspring that are Dominant Silver single factor split to whiteface! place one of these offspring silver males back to a wface hen to produce Dominant Whiteface Silvers which are distinguishable by there Red eyes and are stunning compared to a recessive silver which has Black eyes these can be identified in the nest as soon as they are born ! hope we have helped as it is very rewarding to produce the desired results ;)cheers Frank
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Post by rubberducky on Aug 3, 2005 12:44:59 GMT 10
Frank thanks alot for thr reply it realy helps me sort things out im getting ready to pair them up for breeding Thank you Tony
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Post by hillcresttiels on Aug 3, 2005 15:53:34 GMT 10
No problems Tony I hope it hasnt confused you goodluck with your breeding program and let us know how it's all developing  cheers Frank |
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cheers Frank