love my birds

[de88ie]

hi hows it going thought it was time someone updated the love bird section so here it is.

i am doing very well with my love birds this year have got a great selection of colour at the moment from green to mustard, w/f and pied.
have had a lot of eggs but due to the heat i have had only 50% sucess rate.
i have bought birds with babies and had the luck that the parents have continued to fed the young but the pair with eggs did abandon the eggs.
i havent lost any birds to snakes thankfully but have had lots of the buggers try.
my next step is to put the birds i really want together thin out the spare and find an olive pair(havent got them yet).
any way hows that for an update .
Catch you all later
Debbie

[vankarhi]

very interesting, do you have any pictures???

[silvercloud]

Sounds like you are doing well so far. I hope you find your olive pair.

[robert]

From Robert and Angel . Would be good to see pictures? Also great to see someting up on the Lovebird Section. Thanks for that.

[de88ie]

hi again.
just updating .
i now have around 9 babies under a week old very beautiful as they all are .
i am hoping for another mustard.
does anyone know of any mustard love birds around .S.E.BRIS area.
if any one is after some slate i will have a number of babies in around 7 weeks.
also what is a fair price for these birds.
what should i charge for a green to a w/f ?
i am having a little trouble finding a market for them aswell. so constantly have excess birds. not that i mind but its a little costly on the seed bill.
cheers
Debbie

[de88ie]

i will get some pictures up real soon.

[vankarhi]

I have seen a classified section on the internet...........how I got my first alexandrine actually. I can't remember what it is called, because I was just surfing looking for info and stumbled upon it. Try looking under classifieds for birds in Australia.

Good luck. do you advertise in the paper or through your local bird club??? I am not a member of our local bird club (yet) but I also am not a breeder (yet) either. Maybe even put an ad up in pet shops if they let you, or animal supply shops, vets etc, shops with their advertising boards etc

[robert]

From Robert And Angel.Hope I have not done anything wrong? Just send this material To editor of the African Lovebird Sciety of Quennsland to see if he will advertise in our newsletter which is coming out soon. from Robert and beautifull Angel.

[de88ie]

hi hows things?
robert did you say you sent the info or i should .
that would definetly help.
thanks for the email as well.
i didn't know who angel was until today i try to keep out of the photos it gives me ideas and i already have a huge number of birds.
i am hand rearing an australian cinnamon at the moment
she/he is very cute a little runty but that is why i decided to hand raise her/him.
it was the smallest little thing and the siblings were twice the size. they are great birds if you spend enough time with them. it took me a few goes to get it right but have found it very rewarding.
i will try to put some photos on.
catch you all later.
Debbie

[robert]

For Debbie.Thanks !I sent this material to Graham Black Yesterday and also I phoned him last night.It might be good if you also send him an email or/and also phone him, to remind him. Graham is the editor of our magazine.His email is [e-mail] Phone- 07-3203-3885 mobile- 0410 544 891 Best Robert and Angel

[robert]

For Debbie and Vankahri. It would be nice if in the future that at the Avicultural table,breeders and companion bird owners could sit down as equals.I think that is still some time off. I recently bought a copy of BIRDS USA 2006.There is an article in this issue by Kim Calvert entitled We Are Family .Enter The Avian Community... p94-101. On page 94.it is stated Bird clubs across the board have become more focused on companion bird care rather than bird breeding....The trend is to be more focused on the welfare of birds and how to keep parrots in a life-long home... .No doubt that is true in the United States.But in Australia we still have to live by faith and not by sight.Though of course breeding and companion ownership are not alternatives .Both are important.In the Avicultural Societies I think there is this there is a Pecking-Order.The Breeders are at the top.Companion Parrot Owners are at the bottom.Many Aviculturalists automatically expect that if you are a member,then you are a breeder.Somtimes that is simply an assumption and could change with some education.Sometimes The discrimination is more blatant and therefore more entractable.Surely we can learn from each other. best Robert and Angel

[vankarhi]

I totally agree Robert. I am a companion parrot owner and have very little knowledge of actually breeding birds...........as a kid i bred budgies, if you want to call it breeding. I started with one bird, got another, then a couple more, then pretty soon I had an aviary full . I feel I am fairly knowledgable about "companion parrots" and even a little on training them, but absolutely no knowledge on breeding (handraising I have some experience and some knowledge). I myself am probably one of those who holds "breeders" in high esteem because I feel they are knowledgable about their birds and the genetics and breeding side of stuff.

I agree we can all learn from each other. That is why I love to help out and answer questions when I can.................I am sharing the knowledge I may have or even probably more the "experience" I have to do with "companion birds", but I do not answer too much on the breeding side of stuff. I also enjoy reading about other peoples experiences and knowledge and it has helped me to grow and learn so much more than I ever knew before. The genetics side of stuff..........now that is really confusing to me

I have 30 ish (more than that actually) of knowledge and experience of owning companion birds, and all of mine have had basic manners and even some I taught tricks...................I am surely proud of that ;D and love to share when I can. ;D

[de88ie]

hi again guys.
i agree with the idea that companion parrot owners should be just as important as breeders it is very easy to breed birds in my opinion.well love birds and cockatiels anyway. but to keep a bird that has bonded with you happy is very challenging. that bird considers you its partner and their is nothing more important to it than your affection.
i had a cockatiel i lost last year her name was georgie and the only thing more important to her than me was my son who she would likerly chase around in circles as he ran she would fly around behind him she even sat on his handlebars while he rode his bike and if i was up in the morning and i didn't get her out of her cage she would let it be known she was not happy. it is so important to their character to have that attention and that is what incourages new people into the bird world. you dont just look at a bird in a cage and say i want that you look at their character and their ability to be a friend .
sorry rambling on.
talk to you soon.
Debbie
P.S I LOVE SKYE BUY THE WAY SHE IS BEAUTIFUL AND ANGEL OF COURSE.

[de88ie]

p.s.s i have learnt more from my hand reared birds than my breeders buy a long shot.

[vankarhi]

I have re read what you said Robert ;D I agree that both are needed, companion and breeder people. There is so much info on both that each could learn and share with each other. Breeders (I am generalising here) may not know a lot about companion birds........maybe , while people like me who are more into companion birds might know very little about the breeding side of stuff (generalising again) ;D . Although i would like to learn more, I have felt this even within the dog world. I am into training dogs but those who breed them are considered to be "up there". When I tell people I have bred dogs, they sort of change their attitude..............I always add, I am not a "breeder", just someone who has allowed my dogs to have one or two litters my knowledge in this area is very limited. ;D

Hope I have made sense this time ;D

[vankarhi]

Debbie the trouble is there are a lot of people out there (or in other countries like the USA) who do impulse buy a bird, then decide they do not want it, because it is too much work or makes too much noise (noise that is its natural way of communicating). I have no doubt it happens here too. But it is not just birds that are bought on impulse, dogs and cats and other pets do also. some people just do not put a lot of thought into owning a pet (once again I am generalising, I know not every body impulse buys).

I was probably lucky that i was raised with dogs and cats (my parents bred and showed them) birds (my father loved them - he had canaries and finches) and guinea pigs, mice, chooks, fish (we had huge fishtanks and tiny fish tanks) so I gained a little bit of knowledge while growing up. But there are so many people who have never owned a pet and decide to get one without really thinking about it or researching it.
I think I am totally off topic now (sorry). ;D

Even now, when I am considering a new pet (usually a bird) I do research before I make that decision.

It would be great to have the knowledge of breeding and companion birds and combine it................I could be all powerful then ;D ;D ;D (I am joking about being all powerful) ;D ;D I just can't stop my wicked sense of humour ;D ;D ;D