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Post by robert on Mar 29, 2008 16:10:16 GMT 10
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Post by robert on Apr 12, 2008 17:59:55 GMT 10
I wonder if anyone would like to comment on someting from the first link above.Near the end it is stated " Neither our birds or our products participate in any bird events. We believe that the risk for transmitting a bird related disease is just too great a chance to take for our flock and ultimately for your bird(s).Rest assured we have your birds best interest at heart! " Hope this sets off a few comments from Robert and Hope
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Post by just4birds on Apr 12, 2008 18:09:27 GMT 10
i'm not getting it?? ... there birds or products participate in any bird events ?? I'm gonna disagree ... i think its great to attend bird related events ... whether you choose to take your bird or not .. is totally up to the bird owner .. I probably wouldnt know half of what i know if it wasnt for attending bird related events ... and i take at least 1 of my birds to bird sales i go to ... If you take good enough care of your birds ... you'll know if there are sick birds around ... but whats the point in worring about bird related events when ... i was sitting at my avian vet a few months back ... when a guy bought in 2 wild cockatoos that had PBFD .... And i my baby eckie and black cockatoo with me .... i dont think i've ever been more uncomfy in my life ... I also think its a great way to educate people by going to bird related events and having companion birds there for newbies to see  |
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Post by vankarhi on Apr 12, 2008 18:27:12 GMT 10
It is a risk taking our dogs to dog events and cats to cat shows, horses and cattle to their events etc etc. It is also a risk taking our birds out and about anywhere........probably more risk in taking them out to bird related events though. I did notice that site is an overseas site too. I will say that when I was a regular on a few overseas sites I found their "paranoia" a little bit "overboard". But hey......maybe I am wrong.  |
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Post by robert on Apr 12, 2008 18:37:21 GMT 10
Just4birds,the stuff above about products is a bit misleading. I don't know what that means either. But taking your companion bird to where there is a lot of other birds is a bit of risk for the bird. Also though I might be wrong ,but I think pet shops used to get their birds all over the place. Now I think they rely on committed fewer breeders, who can be trusted with health concerns.If a bird virus is at a bird show,even with one bird,it could spread to many birds at the show. from Robert and Hope
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Post by just4birds on Apr 12, 2008 18:52:10 GMT 10
Yeahh true ... but if you wanna be that over protected then thats the persons choice ... like i said ... even going to an avian vet is a risk ... soo i dont see the differences taking them to a bird related event or to ya vet ...
ALL my companion birds go to an avian vet at least every 3 months ... i know what my birds dont have ... its the same with boarding birds ... every bird that comes to my house must have an avian vet cerft ...
I think if we lock all our birds away .. .there will be more and more stupid people out there buying birds that live for 100 years or more ... that dont have a clue and places like parrot resuce , myself and whoever else rescues birds will be sooo over full god knows where the birds are going to end up ...
And you may as well say ya dont go to petshops that have birds in them ... if ya scared of taking something home ...
I personally think the bird disease stuff is all over rated
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Post by mydoona on Apr 12, 2008 19:27:12 GMT 10
where are these people located? It looks like an American site?
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Post by robert on Apr 13, 2008 15:11:51 GMT 10
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Post by avinet on Apr 13, 2008 18:03:19 GMT 10
That article was written an aquaintance of mine, Ernie Colaizzi who owns a pathology service in the USA. In my opinion he is paranoid about these things, as are many Americans, and the risk of bringing disease home from a visit to a bird fair, the vet or a friend's aviaries are far less than the risk of getting disease from the wild birds in your garden. The risk of disease from a pet shop depends on the shop - if you use sensible judgement and a shop is dirty then don't visit it but if the birds are clean and appear well looked after then the risk is just about zero. I have owned my shop since 1991, and I've never introduced a disease to my home birds from working in the shop. I have regularly taken some of my birds into the shop to visit, and brought birds home to look after them. Baby birds being hand raised will go to the shop during the day to be fed, and be brought home at the end of the day for evening feeds. My Greys go to the shop and mix with the young hand raised birds 5 days a week in our bird nursery area. I've never, ever had a problem with disease transmission from shop birds to home birds. Very few pet birds die of infectious viral diseases such as PBFD or Polyoma. Judging from the stories and experience I get, the very large majority of birds die from enteritis problems (gut bacterial and fungal infections due to dirty cages), gut parasitic infections (rarely worms but more commonly Coccidiosis or Trichomoniasis), heavy metal poisonng, malnutrition causing liver problems, and tumours (budgies mainly). Very few - much less than 1% - have an infectious viral problem. So don't worry and just use some commonsense - if a bird looks sick don't handle it, and if a shop is dirty don't reward it by shopping there. Otherwise enjoy visiting bird fairs, sales, other people's aviaries, and of course clean pet shops. cheers, Mike |
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Post by trueloveaviary on Apr 14, 2008 7:33:21 GMT 10
We take our birds to a bird club, and they will go to our club's bird fair this year, but they are fully vaccinated. All birds that come in the facility will be vet-checked. We also won't let them interact with any other birds as we have our own area and vendor table. ;D Even in our local area, it is risky to take your pet dog to the dog park. There is some disease spreading around there. I think all this being said, you should be cautious with taking ANY pet around other animals. You can never be too cautious, but I think you should be smart. For example, we would never take our birds to other bird fairs where we feel they don't take as good of care about checking birds.  |
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Post by vankarhi on Apr 14, 2008 8:14:13 GMT 10
This is very refreshing to hear people not say "don't take your birds out". Thanks for reasurring us it is ok to take our birds out and about with us. I do take me pet birds (which ever one is a pet at the time) out with me. People know that and I have had people comment "oh you were the lady with the bird on your shoulder". I also got known around the volleyball comps and championships when our youngest daughter Rhianna used to play........I was known as "the lady with the bird " ......... those were the days when my lovely Skye was much more amiable and would travel with us everywhere and was very very people friendly. Rhianna actually commented........hey mum they know you better than me and I am the one who plays volleyball!!! ;D ;D Before then it was my galah Bo, and whatever cockatiel I had and now it is Takoda. Even Caillean has taken Peppa out.......but not now as his wings are not clipped.
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Post by megzly on Apr 18, 2008 23:02:01 GMT 10
when i get a bird that i can feel safe taking out without any risk to me or the bird (lol meaning getting bitten on the face and neck by nut or slack attacking people) then i will happily take that bird everywhere with me- when i handraise too's that i have rescued i take them EVERYWHERE with me in order for them to become very socialised and well adjusted birds, they get used to everyone handling them and picking them up and get used to strangers and i feell that because of this is why the birds i have handraised and given away have gone on to become very well adjusted birds who make great pets, Yes our birds could get diseases or ilnesses fom taking them out but personally i havent seen that many wild birds around here dropping dead from flying around ;D
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Post by megzly on Apr 18, 2008 23:04:39 GMT 10
when i get a bird that i can feel safe taking out without any risk to me or the bird (lol meaning getting bitten on the face and neck by nut or slack attacking people) then i will happily take that bird everywhere with me- when i handraise too's that i have rescued i take them EVERYWHERE with me in order for them to become very socialised and well adjusted birds, they get used to everyone handling them and picking them up and get used to strangers and i feell that because of this is why the birds i have handraised and given away have gone on to become very well adjusted birds who make great pets, Yes our birds could get diseases or ilnesses fom taking them out but personally i havent seen that many wild birds around here dropping dead from flying around ;D
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