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Post by Bentayle on Apr 10, 2005 22:34:21 GMT 10
In my travels around the wide world of internet I came across a site that stated they breed whiteface pastel silver cockatielsand also pastel-silver/white face.
I was wondering your opinions as to the pros and cons of each.
Thanks ;D
Kazz
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Post by leeroy on Apr 10, 2005 23:18:22 GMT 10
kazz, that is 100% correct. bird showing it is a w/face -pastel-silver, or west- coast silver they are known as also? 2nd one , showing pastel-silver but split 4 w/face? pastel or west coast silver has been around many yrs now. a pastel silver or w/coast is worth no more than $ 30 these days. i payed $ 50 for a hen with a unusual patient on it's back 7yrs ago from val newman a breeder from sydney. a few people got duded a few yrs back with these birds ?some were passed off as platiniums to the unwary?leeroy may be back to 80% of his unusual self now.
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Post by leeroy on Apr 11, 2005 9:39:10 GMT 10
kazz, sorry again mistake ?? should be east coast silver? gerryed about it 2 minutes ago? pastels worth a little more?? leroy
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Post by hillcresttiels on Apr 11, 2005 16:24:06 GMT 10
Hi Karen Leeroy is correct a Pastel Silver is now common but Whitefaced Pastel Silver in good size and temperament still fetch good prices!  Frank |
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Post by Bentayle on Apr 13, 2005 11:26:28 GMT 10
Thanks Leroy, Frank. I am looking forward to the breeding season. Here's hoping your tiels have another good season Frank  Kazz |
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Post by Bentayle on Apr 14, 2005 20:08:37 GMT 10
Ok Frank, tell me if I have this right.
if you breed a pastelface silver to a wf silver. the pastel effect gives you pastel silver babies in both wf and pastelface.
Just out of curiosity how much do you think a pastelface platinum would be?
Kazz
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Post by hillcresttiels on Apr 14, 2005 20:38:13 GMT 10
Hi Karen you are correct but drop the Pastel effect. In Silvers the name Pastel was added only for its tones it's not a seperate gene that Pastelises melanin (color). A Pastelface Pastel Silver has 2 different genes 1 Pastelface Gene which has wface in it's make up and Dominant to Wface 2 Pastel Silver a name given to a Dilute form of Silver gene which is a Recessive gene! The terminology in Pastel has no bearing in both varieties just a naming right but because Pastelface is Dominant to Whiteface when paired together you will produce a clutch of both Pface and Wface in any Mutation!  A Bit difficult to explain in words! A Pastelface Platinum in Breeding Condition is worth $180 Juveniles $140-150 in Victoria maybe a tad cheaper up North cheers Frank |
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Post by Bentayle on Apr 15, 2005 12:20:34 GMT 10
I think i got my head around that How much do pastel face silvers cost? I saw an ad yesterday for pf silvers and wf silvers for $75. Made me wonder if they were a confused mutation Kazz |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Apr 15, 2005 16:32:56 GMT 10
I saw an add yesterday asking 300$ for Pastelface Pastel-Silver The bird in my avatar is one and i sell them approx $200! Just remember Kazz that Pastel-Silver is a name given for a recessive gene and has nothing to Pastelface! Combine the 2 to produce the Pface Pastel-Silver! ;D
Frank
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Post by Bentayle on Apr 19, 2005 10:58:28 GMT 10
Frank, I think I get what you mean with the pastel-silvers. I think my brain is finally starting to work genetically ;D
When breeding season kicks in I think I'd like to get a wf pastel-silver from you. (Same as the one on your website if possible)
Kazz
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Post by hillcresttiels on Apr 19, 2005 17:09:53 GMT 10
yep give me a buzz in September! cheers Frank |
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A Bit difficult to explain in words!