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Post by Catbird on Sept 20, 2004 17:49:12 GMT 10
Is there any way a vet can check for infertility?
My whiteface pair have been mating solidly for 3-4 days, and are constantly in the nest, but no eggs as yet. They're trying their hardest.
Both birds are mature, good diet with calcium, in an aviary by themselves, box is clean with new nesting material. The guy I bought the hen off said he didn't have any luck with her either. Its a shame because she is a pretty bird - good size whiteface platnium pearl.
- Claire
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Post by josiedownunda on Sept 20, 2004 17:55:18 GMT 10
Maybe they just need more time. My wf pearl platinum pair took 2 weeks of mating at least 3 times a day before an egg appeared.
I have no idea if vets can do fertility tests but often a change of mate can do the trick. Some things I have heard that could be the cause is the male not quite getting his aim right or the hen not letting him complete the task due to long claws or being unbalanced on the perch. If these things are all ok then maybe give them this chance and see what happens.
Good luck and let us know how they get on. I think you just have to have a bit more of that dreaded 8 letter word....Patience!!!LOL
Jo-Anne
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Post by hillcresttiels on Sept 20, 2004 19:30:11 GMT 10
Hi Catbird how old are they ? Does seem they are waiting for the right conditions I am a stickler for believing the moon has a lot to do with it. Remember Josie that a hen can lay eggs without it's mate doing the job. This just makes the eggs infertile!  cheers Frank |
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Post by Catbird on Sept 20, 2004 22:01:54 GMT 10
Thanks for your advice guys.
The birds are unrelated, from two different breeders. The male is 03 hatch, the hen older. I have some eggs from the male that were fertile with another hen.
I know I have to be patient, but usually with cockatiels I get eggs within a couple of days of putting in a box. Which is why I thought I should have had eggs from these guys by now. They have been mating for 2 weeks, but this weekend they were putting in a concerted effort with 5 matings on Saturday, that I saw.
I'll keep waiting!!
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Post by josiedownunda on Sept 21, 2004 7:55:22 GMT 10
Yes Frank i never thought along those lines when I answered. My situation with the platinum wf pearl hen was fresh in my mind! Just another reason for not creating that website I guess!
Jo-Anne
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Post by pollyparrot on Sept 21, 2004 9:17:27 GMT 10
it took my hoodeds almost 2 years to get it right it was well worth the wait:)
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Post by hillcresttiels on Sept 21, 2004 16:45:39 GMT 10
By your description Catbird i don't think you have long to wait.A very good indicator is the hens droppings are huge and watery, then the swelling of the rump, then the night before they lay the hens like to perch in,on or around the entrance to the box goodluck fingers crossed :)Frank
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Post by hillcresttiels on Sept 22, 2004 13:18:05 GMT 10
Any good news Claire as i'm getting vibes from out you way cheers  Frank |
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Post by Catbird on Sept 22, 2004 17:55:10 GMT 10
"By your description Catbird i don't think you have long to wait.A very good indicator is the hens droppings are huge and watery, then the swelling of the rump, then the night before they lay the hens like to perch in,on or around the entrance to the box goodluck fingers crossed Frank " Thanks Frank ... but from breeding tiels for 10 years I kinda had that sussed . The vibes you are getting are probably my worry that my other hen is off her eggs  . They were cold this morning, but she may be tricking me again. She has the habit of staying off the eggs longer in the last week of incubation. As for the WF, I'll just wait it out. Maybe if I ignore them they'll think I'm not looking! I should treat them like my Rocks and leave them well alone. I would say they were shy, but they sure ain't shy at mating in the open every 1/2 hour! *L* - Claire |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Sept 22, 2004 18:41:56 GMT 10
Maybe i'ts time to candle those eggs for heartbeat and hope she didn't have a night fright chilled eggs are more serious in latter stages of development hopefully everythings fine :'(Frank
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Post by Catbird on Sept 22, 2004 18:57:08 GMT 10
I candled them the other night and they were moving around inside. I'll try again tonight, unless she is in the box. I don't want to scare her off. thanks for the good thought!  Claire |
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Post by Catbird on Sept 22, 2004 21:25:16 GMT 10
Well what do you know .. I get home and can't find the WF hen! Hmmm where could she be at this time of night. Sitting on a little ol egg in her box is where! *LOL* I couldn't believe my eyes! Frank there is something creepy about your predictions! Unfortunately the lutino hen has abandonded hers. I've taken the risk and placed the eggs under the WF, she accepted them so far. I mark all my eggs so I will be able to tell whose is who, and if they don't pip by this time next week, I'll open them up. Fingers crossed they will be viable and haven't sustained too much disruption. If the WF hen can hatch them I can do the rest. What a drama!! Can't I ever get a year where things happen smoothly! Keep those vibes coming ... Claire |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Sept 23, 2004 6:39:03 GMT 10
Good luck Claire you never know maybe the lutino hen will get it right after a day or 2 break as i have had this problem before, then you put the egss back and eveythings fine is the hen ok not ill? cheers Frank
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Post by Catbird on Sept 23, 2004 11:56:36 GMT 10
The hen has become extreamly thin. She has been doing it on her own. I was having to take her out of the box each morning and evening to make sure she ate and drank, she is h/raised ex pet bird.
I won't put the eggs back in with her as I think she needs time to get back into condition. She is usually such a good brooder too, so it may have just been too much for her. My poor old girl!
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cheers Frank
. They were cold this morning, but she may be tricking me again. She has the habit of staying off the eggs longer in the last week of incubation. 