Smiley
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Post by Smiley on Oct 19, 2004 17:09:08 GMT 10
Nicely said there Fisher...
Could not have put it a better way..Thats why I dont not like to sell to pet shops.Unless I know that they will not stick them on the shelf..And I always sell my birds with the seed that I feed,a toy that I make..and information sheets as well..and if they are not happy for any resond given time as well.There is a grantee for them...
Natalie
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Post by senn on Oct 19, 2004 18:16:02 GMT 10
well nat,
i must say it makes a contrast from what ive seen before.
where a breeder gives an inexperienced raiser birds to raise. only rings up to check, the birds are returned 30 mins before being sold and are actually as stressed as.
no care sheets, no food stocks, nothing.
its good to hear of breeders giving info, packs, and such. it makes for a nicer transition for the bird and owner.
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nova
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Post by nova on Oct 19, 2004 22:30:08 GMT 10
I had a tiel years ago that i bought of a breeder and also my friend bought one that day aswell. We had them over a year and as much as we tried we just could not get them tame. This guy told us they were hand raised. After afew days we could see they weren't  the poor things were so scared even after a year and would bite ect. Another friend took my bird and she too couldn't do a thing for him. She did keep him until he died as she got attached to him and didn't want to hand him back LOL. |
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Post by senn on Oct 19, 2004 22:35:02 GMT 10
nova,
i had one last year with that situation but this one did end up calming down.
alas some breeders out there, none on this forum i point out, do make untruthful statements about birds or dont care enough about what they sell.
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nova
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Post by nova on Oct 19, 2004 22:41:11 GMT 10
I think it was a good point someone made that they will sell them with the heading HR to make a quick $$. and i agree 100% after what we went through with our birds. It was very sad.  I have only had my rainbow lory for 2 weeks and he is doing more with me then this poor bird did in a year. comes when i call his name, sits on my hand for a treat,whistles one that i taught him. LOL now i know it wasn't just me with the tiel. ;D |
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Post by senn on Oct 20, 2004 9:27:44 GMT 10
yep
gotta agree with you nova about how the new owner can feel real bad when they cant handle a bird. been there myself. especially if the source says well we never had any problems.
sometimes of course it depends how long the bird was hand raised for. some breeders take em from the nest right before weaning, shove some food in, then say its been hand-raised.
i've been told by at least 1 breeder this can be worse for the bird than leaving it in the nest.
the one i had was in that situation before I got it. alas tho it died early of an infection or id still have it.
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Post by chickabee on Oct 20, 2004 9:47:28 GMT 10
I too will check out the people that ask for my tiels, like do they have other birds or animals, I have to know what sort of environment that they are going to. I love every one of my tiels and when I take the time to make them loving pets, they just have to go to a good home. I have a brother-in-law that would just love to have one and I know that he would spoil it rotten, but the problem is that they own a nasty cat. When he comes over to visit he eyes the tiels all the time, but he himself said that there is no way while his kids still have the cat.
It’s funny as even today I have one of my babies coming home, her owners are going away to QLD for two weeks and asked if I would baby sit, they will not even trust there own family to care for her ………they are taking, a four hour drive just to bring her down to me, now that is what I call special owners.
Deb
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Post by senn on Oct 20, 2004 14:00:18 GMT 10
indeed it is deb.
but its a testament to the breeder too. :-D
you should feel proud to be so highly thought of.
this has become 1 interesting discussion. from some baby budgies through to good and bad breeders via bird personalities.
i must say that different species of birds react to different environments in different ways.
some birds are hands on and some hands off.
even genders can play parts in everything as can differences between individual birds.
most breeders who h/rear are good caring breeders and some arent. some also dont have enough proper experience either.
obviously all these factors contribute.
then of course some owners are at fault too and some just dont get the right info when they ask for it.
theres too much to be able to tell exactly why some people and birds dont work out.
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jill
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Post by jill on Oct 25, 2004 11:48:17 GMT 10
There sooo cute. I love baby bird pics..I wish I could hand rare, but I work full time, so it's not possible.
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Post by jill on Oct 25, 2004 12:19:40 GMT 10
I hadn't read the second page..Excellent advise..I was thorougly quizzed by the breeders of my handraised tiels and one Alexander..One of the breeders (from qld) was telling me that she quizzed one person and got out of her that her last bird died, she coaxed her into telling her why..The pet shop toled her to give it grit and water, which was all the bird got, no food, the poor bird starved to death.She politely toled she couldn't have one of her birds, I've never forgotten this story..A few times she's gone to deliver birds to there new homes and bought them back.
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Post by senn on Oct 25, 2004 16:47:16 GMT 10
jill,
good to hear of breeders quizing.
everyone here ive come across seem to be responsible breeders with such high standards of care for their birds.
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the poor things were so scared even after a year and would bite ect. Another friend took my bird and she too couldn't do a thing for him. She did keep him until he died as she got attached to him and didn't want to hand him back LOL.
