Boy or Girl?

[CBL]

I know you all said hen but just hoping with some new photos you could confirm???

The colour of the beak and feet seems like a hen to me but I just am not 100% sure





I just like this one...

[CBL]

I also forgot to add - what mutation is she/he likely to be given that the cock is a blue (with the white chest) and the mother is a lutino?

[AussieBirds]

She is a blue hen possiblly split to Lutino CBL. That's interesting that you say the parents Blue male/Lutino hen that cross should give you Albino babies somewhere in the clutch. The Blue mutation is recessive, so both cocks and hens can be split for blue, the cockbird has a blue head and darker blue shoulders a white rump and a blue tail, the rump in the hen is blue with no white at all

John

[CBL]

Thanks John - not alot of blue there but maybe that will get stronger after a moult.


Of the three in the clutch another was like this one and the third was a blue male

[AussieBirds]

Well I am always being surprised by these little birds I think that is one of the attractions of the Psephotous species of Grass Parrots, along with the Neophema's they are trully great birds.

John

[CBL]

I also just realised I said the hen was lutino - i meant opaline!

She (I have to get used to saying she) really is a sweet little thing - a very different personality to my cockatiel. Doesn't mind sitting and snoozing on me but just as happy to be off by herself - still has that little bit of skittishness but think that is just part of her personality. Bill on the other hand is very clingy but more of an outgoing personality (alot more bossy too! )

They really haven't interacted at all. She has landed on Bills cage a couple of times and Bill just hisses and moves away. I think they will just ignore eachother

[froggy]

AussieBird wrote :
She is a blue hen possiblly split to Lutino

Think you will find its a normal hen split to blue . ( providing the father is a true blue bird and not a split )

Impossible to get a split lutio hen

That's
interesting that you say the parents Blue male/Lutino hen that cross
should give you Albino babies somewhere in the clutch.

Impossible if the lutio hen is not split to blue and Cock bird is not split to lutio .

Cbl ; the blue brother will be split to lutio

[AussieBirds]

Your right about the split Lutino she can't be split, but your wrong about it being impossible to get Albino from Blue /Lutino and I quote Toby Martin here who is the current President of the Grass Parrot Society of Australia and has lectured all over the world on Grass PArrots " Blue combined with Lutino will produce Albino, with black eyed yellow will produce white"

John

[froggy]

Re read my statement .

A straight cross blue cock and lutio hen will not give you albio but a cross where both birds have both colors eg blue and lutio will give you a chance of albino .

[billspets]

froggy
ok you have confused me
can you lay it out the way you mean so i can try to understand please

regards
bill

[froggy]

Ok bill will try how to breed abiono red redrumps

To start set up 2 breeding pairs

Pair no 1) Blue cock X lutio hen
hopefully prduce
50% Green cocks Split to blue and lutio
50% Green Hens Split to blue

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Pair no 2)
Lutio cock X Blue Hen
Hopefully produce
50% Green cocks split to lutio and blue
50% Lutio hens split to blue

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3) Now to possibly breed abion take

Green split to blue and lutio Cock from pair No1

Lutio split blue hen from pair No2

And if luck is on your side you have a 1 in 8 chance of getting abiono

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The best comination is Blue split to lutio cock X Lutio split blue hen then your possibilty is down to 1 in 4

Hope fully this will explain it better

[hillcresttiels]

Hi Bill in simple terms

A (Blue split Lutino cock) mated to a (Blue hen)

will give 50% chance of breeding Albino hen ;D


Frank

[froggy]

Yes frank that is what the the genetic calculators predict and i am not saying its wrong.

But have had a pair as you described to getther for 2 seasons and produced 15 young being 8 males and 7 hens and not one albino . ( might be shear bad luck in my case )

Yet a friend of mine done as i detailed above and gets 1 or 2 albion hens or cocks bird each year . To which i have just brought his orignal breeding pair . ( hopefully my luck will change )

[hillcresttiels]

I know what you mean Froggy I sold a pair like that to a friend and his 1st clutch produced 3 Albino hens in Cockatiels. However in Albino although a pure white bird is stunning, genetically they are boring to me cheers Frank ;D

[billspets]

so at the end of the day it is a case of put the genetics together an pray because luck playes a big part ;D ;D ;D ;D
regards
bill

[hillcresttiels]

To an extent yes your correct Bill! you can decrease the odds by commencing with the Muation involved for eg If you put an Albino cock to a Blue hen all hens born will be Albino !00% all males will be Blue split Albino!

Frank