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Post by bullibirdshow on Feb 18, 2009 19:56:22 GMT 10
I don't clip.
Cheers,
Kate
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Post by momo on Feb 28, 2009 16:13:03 GMT 10
I havent voted cause I am still undecided.
When I got elmo, she had her wings clipped and 9 months later now shes got her wings back and can fly around the house..
I love seeing her fly but with her wings also she is alot more "relaxed" but seems to have more attitude too. She got very bitey yesterday with my mum, flying to her, biting her lip, flying away etc etc. poor mum her neck and lips are covered in little sores. But today she doesn't seem so narky. I will see how it goes.
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Post by bullibirdshow on Mar 1, 2009 21:24:05 GMT 10
I don't clip my parrots wings.
Cheers,
Kate
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Post by courtzrocks on Mar 21, 2009 20:13:21 GMT 10
I do because it is dangerous if I don't. I take them to work everyday and if they are flighted they will be landing in fishtanks or next to birds that wont get along with them, plus matches destroys anything she can reach. But my avairy birds are obviously flighted. four or five feathers on each wing for matches and beetle and it could take anywhere from 3 weeks to 7 months to grow back. When beetle was plucked downt he front of her chest her feathers grew back in fully within 2 weeks.
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Post by koky on Mar 29, 2009 23:23:37 GMT 10
Mine either don't have any to clip which is a pain in the butt cause keeping them warm is NOT that easy or they are too sick to fly off anyway which is another pain in the butt (being sick I mean)
Feathers are precious, never take a birds feathers for granted or their inability to fly, when you have birds that can't fly you really appreciate how deprived of a natural ability that they no longer have. Yes it makes them sad, I can see it in them EVERYDAY!! They know it, I know it, that is why they LOVE me sooo much and rely on me. Like having a child with no legs, totally dependant, acceptance, but longing to walk. .
I would give ANYTHING to let my birds be able to FLY, just once in their lives.
My chooks, no their wings aren't clipped either. They are in a fully enclosed run. I used to clip wings, I don't anymore!!
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Post by farseeker on Mar 30, 2009 8:11:41 GMT 10
Right now I've got Trouble unclipped - I prefer to keep my guys flighted if I can and everyone is very good about keeping fans off and doors closed when he's out. He's learning to recall at the moment and is doing quite well.
I understand how horrible it is to have a bird that has no choice but to be confined to the ground Sue - most of Squee's infections he developed came from him attempting to fly and injuring his wings. He never gave up trying though.
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Post by vankarhi on Mar 30, 2009 21:02:51 GMT 10
my chooks are in an enclosed yard. Quite a big one at that....and we put wire on top of the already 4 to 5 foot fence and I have actually seen them flap and climb over the fence. I couldn't believe it until I saw it......but when their wings are shorter it is more difficult for them to flap and climb. Let them out most afternoons and then we put them back in at night.
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Post by robert on Mar 31, 2009 12:49:05 GMT 10
Maybe birds react differently when their wings are clipped? When Precious couldn't fly at all,and fell off my shoulders,he would go into a tantrum,because he couldn't do anything about it.Precious is now learning to fly.To be more precise,he can fly,but the co-ordination is something he is still learning.There are times when he tries to fly to me,but lands nearby. I encourage him,when he lands on me.Choice is important even to birds.
best Robert and Precious
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Post by farseeker on Apr 2, 2009 20:24:22 GMT 10
You shouldn't worry about retribution here. We disagree from time to time but we generally respect others opinions even if we disagree. I think the only time we've had someone leave the board that I can remember is because they were restraining their birds wings against their body using tape because they didn't want to cut them as it 'wasn't natural', and couldn't understand why we all were suggesting a light clip instead and advising against the tape. Pretty much as long as the posts are respectful people respond in kind.  However, I do have to say that I think wing-clipping can have it's place. As I said previously I prefer to keep them unclipped but I have had occasions where it was better to clip my birds than keep them flighted. My first greencheek conure Jedidah was clipped before she fledged and because of her previous homes was an extremely flighty and nervous bird. Add into that housemates that were flaky at best and deliberately difficult at worst and it was best to keep her clipped. She was in the process of growing in her wings when she was stolen, and if she hadn't been I would have let her grow them in completely. My clip of choice if I need to is to trim both wings evenly to a point where the bird can maintain height for a few metres before gliding down. At least that way the bird can travel some distance and maintain some level of control over that. |
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Post by koky on Apr 2, 2009 21:27:56 GMT 10
Thanks Farseeker. Guess I am too used to condemnation from overseas. I can see your objectives for clipping.
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Post by Gears on Apr 19, 2009 14:07:33 GMT 10
All my boys are clipped - 5 flight feathers on each wing cut only to the level of the coverlets - that gives them the ability to glide a few metres but not gain altitude. We have kids in the house constantly in & out of doors with their friends & ceiling fans. I can't trust that doors will be closed & fans left off (hubby feels the heat & always needs air-con & fans running). Every day my boys go from inside cages to a huge outside day set-up. With clipped wings the boys can join in all the family fun & even travel out with us to the shops & holidays etc without any fear of "accidents". Originally when I started with birds I did have one cocakteils & he was flighted - once he flew into a ceiling fan & we lost him when he went to fly to hubby and ended up going out the open garage door & off into the distance...  |
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Post by Robyn on Apr 19, 2009 15:01:42 GMT 10
Gears same here, and for the same reasons. I also know a few owners that are using harnesses, only this weekend in the lost and found is a lost eclectus harness and all missing. I hate to think the fate of that poor bird. So all my pets will have a few feathers trimmed.
By the way kids don't just leave doors open so do adult visitors. Happened to me and a young male eclectus flew out the door lucky he stayed around the house and we caught him that same evening.
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Post by starreys on Apr 19, 2009 21:29:46 GMT 10
im going to get mine( eckies) clipped come spring, Chillie my female still needs some more flying lessons as she isnt the best at it . Ive got kids to but ive drummed it into them how careful they must be and i keep the one door thats near where my birds are locked.
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Post by Robyn on Apr 22, 2009 10:33:03 GMT 10
I hope its ok to post here as i did mention it in my above post. The male eclectus that was lost is found. He had been missing for 4 weeks. So there are some very happy owners that now have their bird back.
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Post by vankarhi on Apr 26, 2009 16:01:48 GMT 10
Robyn the one with the harness?? Was the bird ok??? Glad to hear it is found.
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Post by Robyn on Apr 26, 2009 16:48:24 GMT 10
Yes that one, got it all muddled he was only missing for a week. Big write up in Cairns Post. Think maybe he was lucky to be wearing the harness as it got tangled in a low tree and a cat was going to have him for dinner. A retiree heard all the commotion and saved the bird from certain death. All ended happy ever after. The guy that lost the bird is in a wheel chair.
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Post by vankarhi on Apr 26, 2009 19:48:35 GMT 10
Oh wow that is good news.......lucky for him the harness did save his life hey.
So you live in Cairns hey?? My hubby lived there for 5 years in the eighties.....I lived in Townsville for a year. We live in Calliope now (Central Qld).
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Post by Robyn on Apr 27, 2009 12:21:27 GMT 10
Yep born at Atherton on the Tablelands and have lived all my life here. Not a bad place i love it especially winter. Summer is a bit hot and muggy.
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Post by kebz on Aug 6, 2009 10:50:17 GMT 10
We have lost two birds due to them being fully flighted, our tiel was out and Arons sisters dog was over and for some reason Arons folks had the tiel out and he went to land on the dog and the dog attacked him and cause the tiel to be half paralized, he unfortunately had to be put down  The second bird a princess parrot accidentally escaped one day... And we nearly lost Chilli once as his flight feathers were growing back and we were outside and something spooked him and he flew off and the wind took him up and over the house. We were very lucky to find him down a the park but that why by pure accident. So both our birds are clipped, although i had mango (sunnie) clipped a couple of week ago and hes already grown most of his feathers back, but he has limited flight so im not to worried. |
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Post by Damo on Aug 6, 2009 18:37:54 GMT 10
I agree some flight feathers should be cut but not hacked. I have seen alot of birds with both there wings clipped to the very tip where the bird bleeeds and it aint good. My very first princess parrot we bought was from Pet Connection and both her entire wings were hacked, we had her for 5 years and never grew back. Sadly she passed away one morning. Damien |
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