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Post by billspets on Jul 6, 2005 10:50:50 GMT 10
hello all here is one of my new budgies that has just come out of the nest    he she has red eyes as well so i don't know what the colour is it looks to be white with yellow or something like that i have managed to breed 2 out of the one clutch should make for good breeding stock would i have to watch them with sunlight with having the red eyes does anyone know regards bill |
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Post by AussieBirds on Jul 6, 2005 15:26:42 GMT 10
You have a couple of Lutino's Bill you don't have to watch them in the light they are not sensitive to it.
John
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Post by beachbird on Jul 30, 2005 20:05:11 GMT 10
What a pretty baby lutino you have there Bill. Congratulations. ;D
I have three pairs of budgies. Amongst these, I have got one pair (a blue cock, and a bluey rainbow hen) who are in the middle of hatching out their six eggs. This is their first clutch.
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Post by billspets on Jul 30, 2005 21:15:30 GMT 10
well as of thisafternoon i have been given a ferthur 8 babies to hand rear so this will be an experance (as i have never done a budgie before )
so i hope it goes well and i will post some pics soon
regards
bill
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Post by hillcresttiels on Jul 30, 2005 22:01:37 GMT 10
Hey Bill the young bloke looks great John mentioned Lutino but not being right up there with budgie mutations looks like this guys is also a Pied hence the white flights!maybe John could clear that up for us! cheers and enjoy them  Frank |
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Post by billspets on Jul 30, 2005 22:28:17 GMT 10
Hello All
i will try to get a better pic tommorow of all the babies and post it as there are some nice colours there (well in my opinion )
regards
bill
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Post by AussieBirds on Jul 30, 2005 22:49:10 GMT 10
Hi Frank, the white flight feathers tells us that the bird is carrying the Ino gene, this carries through to love birds and red rumps too and if you see white flight feathers and white in the tail feathers you can bet the bird is carrying the Ino gene. You will notice that in Bills pictures the main tail feathers are also white.
John
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Post by billspets on Jul 31, 2005 5:53:01 GMT 10
ha john
can you explain the INO gean for us as eg what it means and poosably what would be a good pairoing for it
regards
bill
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Post by billspets on Jul 31, 2005 8:15:25 GMT 10
Hello All As promised here are the latest pics of the budgies all self surfishent   well i dont know what the colours are called but they look great regards bill ok now this one confuses me these birds to the naked eye are yellow and white but when in a pic the have a blue or viliot to them  not sure on the colours but they look great (in my opinion ) regars bill |
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Post by hillcresttiels on Jul 31, 2005 9:25:18 GMT 10
Hi Bill they do look great and you should be very proud! Thanks John I was pretty confident the budgie was Lutino hence the red eyes but if the pied factor was involved in the ino gene wouldn't the flights and part of tail be white or would it be a yellow tone cheers Frank
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Post by AussieBirds on Jul 31, 2005 10:50:01 GMT 10
ha john can you explain the INO gean for us as eg what it means and poosably what would be a good pairoing for it regards bill Hi Bill here is the best explanation I have found reproduced with the permission of the Author. The Ino gene mutation The Ino gene prevents the total production of melanin throughout the body; the feathers, the eyes, and skin etc. If the Ino gene appeared in the wild budgerigar, then the absence of melanin throughout the body would produce an all-yellow, red-eyed budgerigar, the Lutino. The cheek patches on the Lutino appear white because melanin is absent from the medulla of the feathers, and yellow pigment is never present in the cheek patch feathers. There have been two Ino mutations recorded; a sex-linked mutation, which is the mutation which has survived to this day, and a non sex-linked mutation which is believed to have been lost. The fact that two different genetic mutations having the same effect, have occurred on two different chromosomes, clearly demonstrates the fact that some genetic messages carried by the DNA, are repeated at more than one location on different chromosomes. The Ino gene mutation acts like an off-switch to melanin production throughout the body, therefore the Normal budgerigar possesses at least two genes that act like main on-switches for melanin production. While we are discussing the genetic control of melanin production, it is interesting to note that there are several other all-yellow types of budgerigar. This demonstrates that in certain parts of the body, melanin production continues, as in the Normal budgerigar. The different genes that produce the different types of dark-eyed clears (Yellows, Double factor Spangles etc.) have slightly different effects to each other; the Double factor Spangles have normal coloured eyes, legs, beaks and ceres, and therefore melanin production occurs normally within the cells of these structures; however, in the feather cells only melanin production does not occur. In other dark-eyed clears, melanin production does not occur except in the eyes. John |
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Post by AussieBirds on Jul 31, 2005 10:58:48 GMT 10
Hi Bill they do look great and you should be very proud! Thanks John I was pretty confident the budgie was Lutino hence the red eyes but if the pied factor was involved in the ino gene wouldn't the flights and part of tail be white or would it be a yellow tone cheers Frank It would be Yellow Frank as the Ino gene is a lack of melanen as you know. here is an excellent site that explains the colour variations in Budgies, you may find it intersting. www.budgerigars.co.uk/genetics/yfalbino.htmlThis artical will answer Bills query about the adult birds having that blue tinge to them also. John |
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Mum & breeder of cockatiels, budgies and lovebirds. 
Frank