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Post by mummybird on Nov 26, 2005 15:16:32 GMT 10
just my luck... i bought 2 baby budgies yesterday and now one is dead !!! thats 2 birds in 1 week... can you imagine ! i am so upset than it has turned to rage i dont know weather to scream at the petshop for selling birds that are obviously to young or scream at myself for doing something wrong... my son is devistated ! he lost his flutter and now the bird he claimed as his new bird is also dead !!!!! he doesnt understand why all his birds are "broken" as he calls it and why i tell him they wont be coming back. sorry just had to vent my anger..... R.I.P jo-jo our little friend. she is the little blue spangle in the tub....
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Post by mummybird on Nov 26, 2005 15:42:04 GMT 10
well the pet shop replaced her... eventhough they said they dont replace dead birds.... i only bought her yesterday afternoon. they gave us a lovely violet... but still feel sad for our jo-jo. she was a sweetie. lets hope i have more luck with this one.... things just arnt going right lately. well not when it comes to budgies anyways.
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Post by kim1 on Nov 26, 2005 16:19:51 GMT 10
looking at the pic neither bird looks well, both seem very fluffed up, maybe its just the photo, but sure looks a bit odd. SO SO SORRY
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Post by mummybird on Nov 26, 2005 16:21:53 GMT 10
they were crossed with the english budgie so much larger and fluffy.... i hope it is normal... but the big grey one seams ok... he eats lots and is climbing around.. something that the little blue one never did...
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Post by kim1 on Nov 26, 2005 17:47:33 GMT 10
i DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE ENGLISH BUDGIE, BUT SOUNDS LIKE HE IS OKAY.
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Post by mummybird on Nov 26, 2005 19:53:07 GMT 10
i dont know anything either except they are bigger and fluffyer....
big-grey is doing good so thats ok.
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Post by beachbird on Nov 26, 2005 20:46:58 GMT 10
I have some English budgies, and they are bigger than the regular ones. They look like they have grandpa whiskers too. I personally wouldn't sell a baby that wasn't completely weaned. I think it's unfair on the baby, and also puts pressure on the new owner. So, they are at least nine weeks when sold. All my babies come out of the nest when they are ready to wean, then I keep them with their parents for at least two more weeks to be sure they are doing ok feeding themselves. In that time, they learn to eat seeds, vegetables, drink water and are socialising well with the other birds in their family. If the barring on the forhead is right up near the cere (nostral area), then it is really young. I hope things work out better for you with the new ones. Just my two cents worth.
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Post by kim1 on Nov 26, 2005 20:53:41 GMT 10
you are spot on, I worry when people buy ringnecks at about 5 weeks or so from a breeder with the intention to hand raise it, most don't realize how strong the birds fear has developed at that age, I was handed 2 this year when an aquantance bought them from a breeder not realizeing how hard they are to feed when they are so frightened, they had to be crop needled, and when I got them they where so dehydrated, its just not fair on the bird, they had to be avery birds anyway as they where so frightened they where a bit carniverous.
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Post by mummybird on Nov 26, 2005 20:56:38 GMT 10
awwwww .... thats why i dont want to buy from pet shops... they obviously dont care... but despite my efforts i cant find a budgie breeder in newcastle. !!! we have a budgie breeders club thing but i cant find a contact number anywhere on the website !!!
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Post by kim1 on Nov 26, 2005 21:04:51 GMT 10
some do, but for the most part its all about money, birds are a commodity they are treated like plants, if one dies there's always another, some pet shops, will sell birds repeatedly to new owners who continually have their birds die, some breeders will too but most of them really care about the birds. If I sell a bird and the new owners come back the next season for another because there bird has died I jolly well want a good reason why the bird died before considering selling them another. accidents happen but stupidity is often repeated.
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Post by mummybird on Nov 26, 2005 21:07:08 GMT 10
to true....
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Post by lovemytiels on Nov 27, 2005 4:55:16 GMT 10
So sorry Carmz that you have had another pass away. It is just not fair. I would be looking at another pet shop if that is the only way that you can buy your budgies. Seems to me that they haven't got a bloody clue on the age of young budgies nor what health signs to look out for. Hope all goes well for you. If you lived here in Adelaide I would give you some of my baby budgies as no one is interested in buying budgies here these days and I would rather give them away than sell them to a pet shop. Cheers Anna
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Post by mummybird on Nov 27, 2005 6:36:36 GMT 10
well i got flutter from a different place... this is the first time i have got budgies from the local pet shop. the other two i have had for a couple of years i got from a market and a pet shop in port macquarie. im trying my hardest to find a breeder here so i can have someone to rely on for when we fill our aviary. i dont want dead birds all over the aviary floor the next morning.
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Post by ozquaker on Nov 27, 2005 10:50:34 GMT 10
That's really sad when you get a new bird and it dies on you. The pic does show that jo-jo was already unwell. The sadder part is that jo-jo was probably not the only sick bird in the pet shop. I'm willing to bet that there are many more people who have unwittingly bought a budgie or some other bird from that shop and it has died within days of purchase.
No matter how pretty a bird looks in the shop, it should also have its eyes open and bright, be alert and preferably interacting with the others. If it sits quietly fluffed up, it could be tired, but is more likely to be ill. The store person should have been well trained enough to identify a bird that is ill and not sell it on. The store person should also willingly allow you to check the birds ventral area, which sould be clean and without poop stains.
I agree that sometimes it is not easy to find a reputable breeder in the areas that we live, particularly if it is in a regional centre, and it may not always be practical to drive to a larger city, although personally I prefer to do this rather than patronise a pet shop that doesn't have the well-being of its animals as a first priority.
I'm glad the pet shop did do the right thing and replaced jo-jo, as it appears that it was not your fault that the bird died. Hope your son is not overly upset by the whole experience.
Giovanni
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Post by Laraine on Nov 28, 2005 11:35:11 GMT 10
I've got the same way of thinking as Beachbird, I hope the petshop aren't buying babies that aren't properly weaned. Its surprising how many people think the minute they fledge they are weaned. I was in my local petshop the other day and a women there was going to take her baby cockatiel away from its parents to tame and it had just come out of the nest. I had to set her straight.
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