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Post by ozwell on Jan 13, 2009 21:26:10 GMT 10
  By ozwellphotos of my gang gangs |
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Post by Karen on Jan 13, 2009 22:10:09 GMT 10
You could always say one died so you are sorry the sale is off.  You can change your mind as no money has changed hands yet. Just tell him you are sorry but your situation has changed and you are now keeping them. Could always offer to sell him a chick when they lay. |
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Post by madaussie on Jan 14, 2009 8:19:43 GMT 10
:'(Yes that is a good point point bird crazy i would be doing that if it was me ,as i sold all my birds last year due to moving and family stuff AND I MISS SUM OF THEM SO BAD and we ended up staying trust me don't sell them if you really don't wont too it will eat at you for a long time .  j |
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Post by ozwell on Jan 14, 2009 17:50:42 GMT 10
I am facing this at the moment, I am living in Alice Springs for the next 12 months and leaving my birdies in the care of my mother (who is getting on in years), she has been looking after them for 4 months now and says she can't cope (like 40 aviaries is tomany) so half need to go. Which half  |
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Post by madaussie on Jan 14, 2009 19:00:09 GMT 10
Or you could try the local boy scouts etc they will do it for you at a good price to raise funds for camps etc .
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Post by ozwell on Jan 14, 2009 19:13:36 GMT 10
Too far out of town, but thanks. I keep procrastenating on the subject of the sale and change the subject when it comes up. Don't know if I can do it for 12 months but.
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Post by sypher on Jan 14, 2009 20:15:28 GMT 10
I did see a list of birds you were selling ozwell. Are you planning on selling anymore?
I gave the guy my word, which I shouldnt have, but the deal is done. It is eating at me, but I am sure they are going to a good home and I will get more eclectus eventually to replace the gang gangs. They really are an awsome bird to keep, but it is alot of work keeping them occupied.
Shaun
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Post by sypher on Jan 14, 2009 20:16:15 GMT 10
That is one awsome hairdo on the hen ozwell!  Shaun |
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Post by just4birds on Jan 15, 2009 7:44:08 GMT 10
sorry have to put my 2 cents worth in .... i seen ya ad on petlink .. and i thought to myself "YOU FOOOL" .... sorry  I have no idea why you would want more breeding pairs of eckies ... when people cant sell the ones they are breeding on petlink as it is ... the price has dropped right out on them ... lucky to even get $500 for a hand raised on these days ... cause other people are trying to off load them cheap to get rid of them ... i know someone in melbourne who has 6 baby eckies and has only sold 1 in like the last 4/6 weeks ... where as try and find a baby gang gang hand raised .. is like trying to find a needle in all of australia ... and well the price is still wayyyy up over the 1k mark for a baby gang gang if ya can even find one to buy ... i know its not all about the price ya can get for the babies .... but i really dont see the point in breeding something if it cant be sold at a price that only good pet owners / breeders will pay All the best *Lisa* |
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Post by angelicvampyre on Jan 15, 2009 9:07:41 GMT 10
How about explain to him that you are feeling really upset about selling them and you regret your decision. However you have given him your word and you will stick by that and ask if you could get first perference of the chicks when they lay.
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Post by ozwell on Jan 15, 2009 17:23:08 GMT 10
I think it's good that you are a person of your word, we all occasionaly make decisions we regret later. Thats life!
Just4birds I maybe wrong, But if you are into birds for the money, your keeping them for the wrong reasons.
I would sooner keep my eastern kings any day over my black cockatoos, it's just that I am in a situation where I can have both, Lucky me!!!
Sorry I just had to say it!
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Post by just4birds on Jan 15, 2009 20:56:09 GMT 10
Thats cool .... i dont mind you saying what you think ... but i did say
i know its not all about the price ya can get for the babies .... but i really dont see the point in breeding something if it cant be sold at a price that only good pet owners / breeders will pay
I dont breed birds ... i have companion parrots from cockatiels to an amazon
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Post by zooyouthben on Jan 15, 2009 21:47:59 GMT 10
So here we are again, the cute and fluffy people...
There will always be buying any yes ANY handraised parrot, working for a Bird Dealer we have huge lists for people who want ekkies, people who want Red tail's etc... they can bring the bird back with any questions and problems and its pretty much always a happy situation.
To say "petlink is full of adds and people cant get rid of those birds" is ludicrous Birds will always be sold, it might not be at the price you want but they will always go. Plus lets Divide the number of add's on petlink by the amount of people in the country!!!!!
So there is 3000 adds on petlink, some double up but that doesnt matter
divided by 21,562,535 people as of 10.14 pm Central time 15/1/09
Thats 7187 (and a half) people per add!!!! i think out of all those people there is bound to be a sale!!!! (at any price)
Its also the time of year, atm i pay what $12 for a Painted Firetail come late feb they will probably be worth $18!
People who want birds don't necessarily what to go all over the country side to get every little thing to go with their bird, go to a dealer get the lot and bam... you are home with your bird, cage food toys etc...
What if no one had bred your companion cockatiels to 'amazon' (bit of gloating their judging from your post).
There is a miniscule chance that australia will get to the parrot rescue stage that they have in the US, theres still too much dollar value here in birds, so its not worth even starting that arguement.
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Post by avinet on Jan 15, 2009 23:23:44 GMT 10
i know someone in melbourne who has 6 baby eckies and has only sold 1 in like the last 4/6 weeks ... where as try and find a baby gang gang hand raised .. is like trying to find a needle in all of australia ... and well the price is still wayyyy up over the 1k mark for a baby gang gang if ya can even find one to buy ... Of course there is a simple explanation for this - Eclectus are very easy to breed, possibly the easiest of all the larger parrots, while Gang Gang's are extremely difficult to breed - one of the hardest species in the cockatoo group. If you can breed 4 or 5 Eclectus in a year - not at all difficult - and sell them for $500 each it is a guaranteed $2000+ income, whereas if you are lucky enough to get one Gang Gang baby (and they are a difficult bird to hand rear, never mind breed) and sell that for $1500 then you are behind. It then becomes a decision whether you breed for the challenge of getting a difficult species to breed, with little chance of a return on investment, or breed for easy success and some return on investment. cheers, Mike PS I have always wondered Lisa where the use of "ya" instead of "you" comes from - I have only ever seen it used in your posts here and as a student of the English language it has always made me curious. |
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Post by avinet on Jan 15, 2009 23:38:06 GMT 10
Very few birds that are for sale are listed on Petlink, but it does provide a bit of a barometer on the going prices for birds.
I don't know how many birds are sold each year via Petlink, but I did a study of the numbers of birds sold in Australia each year as part of a submission to EBAG. The total was around 1.3 million each year, with parrots providing over 700,000 of that total.
For those interested the breakdown for the parrots was
Parrot - exotic 60,500, Parrot -native 71,500, Lovebird 50,300, Cockatiel 194,000, and Budgie 360,000.
There may not be a problem yet in Australia for unwanted birds, but it may happen given the numbers bred - don't be complacent Ben. And I can see it happening quite quickly with Eclectus given the numbers of Eclectus being bred, and the numbers of Eclectus owners who have problems with their birds as they mature.
cheers,
Mike
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Post by vankarhi on Jan 16, 2009 7:08:06 GMT 10
Hey lets keep this "not personal". Lisa is not a breeder and only keeps pet birds some of which have been rehomed to her or by her. I personally also don't like "slang", but have been known to use it on the "net" to try to keep things "light" ....... just my personal opinion on that one. As for ekkies being easy to breed.........I can vouch for that.......I have taken the nest box out to try to stop Skye from laying, but it looks like she is still wanting to lay  and I am at a loss now as to what to do. I will talk to some people this Sunday at the local bird club meeting. So Shaun back to you and your delima about your Gang Gangs. I feel for you as it must be heart breaking to realise you might have made a mistake. I would possibly try to summon up the courage to try to tell the guy that you have changed your mind. But like you I also would be filled will guilt and regret as when I give my word I also try to keep it. Not an easy decision to make and I am glad it is not me as I would be stressing out of my mind worrying about "the right and wrong" thing to do (morally I am talking about). Good luck.........I am guessing you have stuck to your word too. You could always ask him for a chance to buy a chick out of them later??? Maybe look for a mate for it later??? |
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Post by sypher on Jan 16, 2009 20:33:58 GMT 10
Thanks Guys, I appreciate all your thoughts and imput. Lisa, I know exactly where you are coming from, and I do feel that way, but at the moment my bills are in excess of $1000 a week and I spent a little to much on setting the birds up and something had to go. I am sure one day I will get another pair and other birds of more value, but I think I need to start breeding birds with a little less value to help pathe the way for the more challenging species.
I love the gangas and I think about what I have done all day long, believe me. My word is my word, and I cant go back on it, the deal is done and the birds will leave here over the long weekend.
Thanks Shaun
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Post by sypher on Jan 16, 2009 20:35:48 GMT 10
The first baby has been promised to me. I have no doubt they will breed, they mated here and entered the log. They are going to a good home.
Shaun
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Post by vankarhi on Jan 16, 2009 21:05:10 GMT 10
Well I am excited that you are going to get a baby. Will it be handraised or parent raised?? I am guessing as they are not easy to breed that parent raised might be better if breeding later in life???
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Post by silvercloud on Jan 17, 2009 11:47:58 GMT 10
Well that is the best outcome Shaun. It's worked out for all concerned. ;D
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and I am at a loss now as to what to do. I will talk to some people this Sunday at the local bird club meeting.
