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Post by angelicvampyre on Jan 12, 2009 13:57:48 GMT 10
Ihave been breeding Budgies for a little while and I do enjoy it but it was always a short term thing. Part of me feels that it is something that I will always have a few on the go but never really get into the showing of them as I can't really wrap my head around the gentics and the only ones I would LOVE to breed are so far beyond my reach I wonder why I bother.
So I have been thinking about getting into bigger birds. I am thinking something around the size of a Quaker or a Princess parrot. It really would be having two of three pairs in the avairy and them pulling one pair in and running a breeding round and raising the chicks.
So I have been thinking about it, not something I would do tomorrow or even in the next few months, this is all a good year off at the very least. So anyone have suggestions on what I should breed? Size and energy that it would take and also should you hand raise or let the parents raise then you take over later? How much time does hand raising take? And also how muich demand is there or these birds, quakers seem to be available, hand raised princess parrots seem to be harder to get, should I start with a hand raised pair or would an avairy pair do for my breeding stock?
So yeah any information or if you could point me to so links then let me know, thanks.
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Post by avinet on Jan 12, 2009 22:31:30 GMT 10
Hand raise Princesses are hopeless at breeding, at least the cocks are. My 12 year old HR pet pair have never bred, even though the hen is very willing - the male has absolutely no idea of what is involved. Princesses are lovely birds but if you want to breed them get aviary raised birds.
How much space do you have - if you envisage cabinet breeding as per budgies, then you need to think small - maybe Neophemas. If you have reasonable sized flights then there is plenty of choice.
cheers,
Mike
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Post by angelicvampyre on Jan 13, 2009 0:10:01 GMT 10
Well i have "breeding room" which is half a garage that has been converted I could convert that more. I also have a largest avairy outside, I am 5'2" I could ly down in the middle streach my arms and legs out and still not touch the sides. So I could use that (currently has all my budgies in it) otherwise I could look for another avairy that would suit one pair that would be easy to clean and they could do their thing with minimual interuption from me.
I have been thinking about going up to the pet shop and asking them what they have shortages from as they are my back up if i can't sell privately and I don't want to end up with a bunch of birds that I can't sell and that they can't sell or have to many of them. One of the resasons I am stearing clear of the Rainbow Lorris as the shop always has lots of hand raised ones that are slowley going feral in the bird room and they can't seem to sell them.
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Post by angelicvampyre on Jan 14, 2009 10:04:55 GMT 10
Well a spanner was thrown in the works. Someone I breed budgies with has been told that he can't have that many birds at his place (they rent) so they put a limit on him having 6 birds. All his Budgies are now coming to my place to live and we will join breed. So we decided that I would give him some money and we would pick up two breeding pairs of Quakers and join breed them at his house. He will be doing all the work and will just give me a bub every now and then to hand raise. If we decide to expand our breeding then I will get a pair at my house as well.
This works out well as I have been tossing up getting a tame quaker to add to my bird family but now I can breed one and pick the one I like in a year or two time. This way I can be involved in the breeding without it being 100% hands on and get some experiene.
So we looked around and a few people we know through people are going to give us a pair of blues for $250, proven pair approx 4 years old (we have to drive 2 hours on the weekend to get these) and a pair of green split with Blue again proven pair approx 4 years old for $250 (only a half hour drive for these ones)
I think 4 birds for $500 is a good deal. Any thoughts?
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Post by Karen on Jan 14, 2009 13:24:47 GMT 10
That is an absolute bargain! I bought a pair of quakers once. Only kept them a few months as they were the noisiest things I'd ever heard. Their aviary was up the back yard with a large garden and lots of tree's between the aviary and the house. Aviary probably 80 foot away. Whenever I'd open the back door they'd hear and start screaming and screaming and screaming! I had to sell them else I would have wrung their necks!  I decided if I ever got another quaker it would definately be handraised. |
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Post by sypher on Jan 17, 2009 18:16:18 GMT 10
That is a good price for Quakers. I have a split blue hen and a blue cock and they cost me $350 which was a good price at the time. I have sold handraised blues for $200 but the splits are harder to sell.
Shaun
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Post by angelicvampyre on Jan 17, 2009 22:20:45 GMT 10
Thanks, down here the greens seem to be selling well. When I was looking for a hand tamed one two of the breeders I was talking two had spare blues but no spare greens and that was not because they did not breed them but because they went first. From the two pairs we should get more blues then greens which will be good.
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Post by courtzrocks on May 26, 2009 17:32:31 GMT 10
We have a pair of blue quakers at work..not sure what we have on them though..noisy buggers though. But then again its just personal prefference, Im not at all a quaker fan but those who like them LOVE them so if you get them going they seem to becoming more popular and wanted more so you would be able to sell of HR babies quite easily.
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Post by sypher on May 26, 2009 19:36:30 GMT 10
They are very noisy Courtney! They are the first birds to yell out when I go near the aviaries.
Shaun
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Post by courtzrocks on May 26, 2009 22:27:53 GMT 10
I've only had one adult quaker like me (well, love me) so I think I'm just not a quaker person..the rest seem to hate me cos they are sooo attached to their owners. Quaker bites hurt soo bad lol. But each to their own. Have you seen hooded parrots? We had some young ones at work and I think if they were hand raised they would have been awesome. They were so cute! I love princess parrots but definately get parent raised birds for breeding. Or what about regent's? We have someone that brings in the sweetest regent, he's adorable.
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Post by meandem on May 27, 2009 12:16:54 GMT 10
So Courtney, got any scarlets at work for sale?
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Post by Karen on May 31, 2009 21:42:59 GMT 10
Mum and I was at Pet City on Friday, didn't see scarlets but saw elegants at $70 each. Bit expensive but for a pet shop it's not too bad. I have been considering getting the elegants but don't really want to spend $140 though.
Those quakers there were very noisy at Pet City! Mum fell in love with the Suns though, 1 was a talker and 3 of them all wanted mums attention.
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Post by angelicvampyre on May 31, 2009 23:00:41 GMT 10
I could not give my elegants away! I sold 2 pairs for $100 a while back just to get rid of them!
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Post by Laraine on Jun 2, 2009 12:44:12 GMT 10
When is the next bird sale up your way Ellen? They had quite a few at Fairfield and might have some at Castle Hill in July if you are travelling that far. Andrews Pets usually has them, he goes to all the sales, I bought my white fronted female from him a little while back.
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Post by meandem on Jun 12, 2009 13:30:56 GMT 10
When is the next bird sale up your way Ellen? They had quite a few at Fairfield and might have some at Castle Hill in July if you are travelling that far. Andrews Pets usually has them, he goes to all the sales, I bought my white fronted female from him a little while back. Our Inverell Bird Sale is on 21st June. I am so hoping that someone has got scarlets for sale, and I also want to replace my poor little pied elegant hen. |
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Post by Laraine on Jun 14, 2009 20:08:00 GMT 10
There were quite a few at Fairfield, keep an eye out for Andrews Pets. He is from Sydney and I know he goes to the markets. I bought my white fronted little girl from him last year.
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Post by meandem on Jun 15, 2009 19:37:52 GMT 10
Yes I have been to his shop. I purchased my Lacewing Ringneck from him, and she is yet to find a suitable mate. She just isn't happy with what I have on offer. Never mind, she is still beautiful. I might need to take a trip to Sydney!
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Post by sofiapertuit on Jun 30, 2010 22:00:16 GMT 10
When I first started breeding parrots I knew nothing. We didn't have Internet yet and there where few to no breeders where I lived. The birds I raise or have raised are Macaws, Amazons, small Africans, Conures and Cockatiels. In the beginning I tried raising them in the house:( I soon found out this was a huge mistake!. Thanks.. Zylkene | Arden Grange Dog Food |
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