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Post by jusdeb on Sept 7, 2010 21:28:19 GMT 10
Hi just wanting a name to this little fella , he/she is from Lutino hen and Cinnamon Cock , the grey areas are actually Cinnamon up close .Thanks.  |
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Post by avinet on Sept 8, 2010 13:06:27 GMT 10
Has to be a girl's name given the colour of her parents.
cheers,
Mike
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Post by jusdeb on Sept 8, 2010 16:26:59 GMT 10
Sweet a little girl thought so by her demeanor ...so can the Lutino baby be a boy or is that one of those genetic things where only girls carry the gene ? So not into genetics bur trying hard.
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Post by jusdeb on Sept 8, 2010 16:28:10 GMT 10
Oh is this a pearl ? Am only guessing here ? Thanx
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Post by vankarhi on Sept 8, 2010 16:44:36 GMT 10
She looks like a pearl to me.....but maybe I am wrong.......there are so many pretty colours out there now.
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Post by Robyn on Sept 8, 2010 17:33:14 GMT 10
Yep Tracey your right it is a cinnamon pearl.
Lutino, Cinnamon & Pearl are sex linked so that means the hens have to be visual for that color the males however can be split for that color or pattern. Your male is a cinnamon pearl or split pearl so i would say that both your babies would be hens. Your cock bird would have to be split lutino to produce a lutino male baby.
I guess it would all depend on what splits your cock bird is carrying & whether or not your hen is a straight Lutino or she is a cinnamon Lutino Pearl.
Have you posted pics of the parent birds???
Don't know if this has helped or confused you more.
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Post by jusdeb on Sept 8, 2010 18:54:39 GMT 10
no I will post now.  Above is Mum  Dad |
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Post by jusdeb on Sept 8, 2010 18:55:46 GMT 10
Lol im totally confused ::)been trying to teach myself genetics from the internet .
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Post by vankarhi on Sept 8, 2010 19:08:29 GMT 10
I was going to say that "she" looks so much like my Snowy except where your girl is yellow, my Snowy is white of off white......she is a white faced cinnamon pearl. I thought she was a "he" but about 6 months ago I noticed behaviour that made me suspect "he" was actually a "she" and a friend of mine in Brisbane asked for pics (she breeds cockatiels and alexandrines) and said "Snowy is 100% girl" ;D I think Mike (avinet) had told me she was a girl ........ but me being thought she was still a boy when she was a baby........but she doesn't talk.......she only wolf whistles at me when I walk past her cage (makes me feel good too lol......I always say "thankyou" lol) and like I said about 6 months ago I started to realise because of what I have just said that she is a girl and also because she sits in her water dish and makes this "noise" ........ sounds like mice........but it looks like she is "nesting" So once again I have rambled ;D sorry  |
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Post by jusdeb on Sept 8, 2010 19:14:19 GMT 10
My girl (mum) was bought as a male , then laid an egg and that was that lol
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Post by Robyn on Sept 8, 2010 21:03:16 GMT 10
Thanks, the pic is a wee bit bright but i suspect your hen is a lutino pearl. Your male is cinnamon but could be split?
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Post by jusdeb on Sept 8, 2010 21:11:40 GMT 10
wow it gets very complicated when theres splits and pearls lol makes for some nice surprises when those little feathers emerge from pin feathers . Thanks for the help oh my next pair I will get from a breeder and ask about the background I think this helps solve a lot of mystery hey ?
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Post by avinet on Sept 8, 2010 22:37:03 GMT 10
Your male is a cinnamon and the female is a lutino and as Robyn said, is almost certainly a pearl lutino. It is possible that she is a pied lutino but looks more like a pearl from the photo - a better photo of her back without the strong contrast from sunlight will settle that. Since you have Cinnamon pearl and lutino babies, the male has to be split to pearl and also split to lutino. The result of that, and assuming that the mother is a pearl lutino, is that all cinnamon babies will be females. You can get lutino males but there is a small complication with the females which I will discuss below, so will have to reserve judgement on the "lutino" The full list of possibilities is as follows, with the percentage likelihood males 35.0% pearl lutino split cinnamon 15.0% lutino split cinnamon and pearl 35.0% grey split cinnamon and pearl and lutino 15.0% grey pearl split cinnamon and lutino female 15.0% cinnamon pearl 35.0% cinnamon 15.0% lutino cinnamon (a very pale washed out cinnamon) 35.0% pearl lutino cinnamon ( very pale with yellow pearl markings) A nice pairing from a genetic point of view - lots of variety possible, and all the full cinnamons will be instantly sexable as females. Also half the males will be greys - either normal grey or pearl grey, so any grey babies are sexable immediately as males. I might add that the lutino cinnamons are variable - some are really hard to tell from full lutino while others have a noticeable pale cinnamon tinge to the feathers, most obvious on the tail feathers. If your lutino has pure white tail feathers it is almost certainly a male but if they have a slightly "dirty" look then they will likely be female. Sometimes the colour only becomes obvious with the adult moult. Hope this helps - a good tool for working out genetics is at www.gencalc.com/cheers, Mike |
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Post by jusdeb on Sept 8, 2010 22:59:01 GMT 10
avinet it was very helpful , thank you so much and thanks to all the people that answered they have all been awesome ...love this site , every question Ive posted has resulted in helpful friendly answers. thanks again folks
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Post by jusdeb on Sept 8, 2010 23:02:41 GMT 10
Oh Ill put a ( better) pic of my Lutino girl up tomorrow .
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