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Post by avinet on Apr 20, 2011 21:48:00 GMT 10
When my Butch escaped, a work colleague told me that it was up to the finder of a lost bird what they do with it. According to her, the finder is entitled to keep it if they want. I told her I thought that was stealing & she disagreed. That's what she did when she found a hand tame lorikeet. She went & bought a cage & kept it. Made no attempt to find the owner because she now has a free bird & that suits her just fine. That is a common attitude many people have - we used to get them come into our shop to buy a cage and we would tell them they should advertise - they rarely did. It is stealing - just the same as finding a wallet full of money and keeping it - and I know of cases locally where the police have gone round and threaten prosecution if the found birds wasn't handed back. cheers, Mike |
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Post by meandem on Apr 21, 2011 9:16:44 GMT 10
That's it! It is stealing - and there is no other name for it. I hope you get your best mate back Laraine.
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Post by gypsy on Apr 21, 2011 9:27:35 GMT 10
Oh My, I could never keep a tame, talking bird that flew into our home  There is a Corella in our tiny town, who is quite the escape artist, and he gets out and goes visiting everyone! - He has learnt who to stay away from, and after phone calls to the owners they now have the attitude he will come home to bed! He loves scaring me, by hanging upside down off the guttering and peeking in the kitchen window and saying 'how you going' LOL No one would even try to keep him, as he would escape and go home! When Wally found us, we knew he was no-ones pet, and anyway a quick word to local shop and fuel agent (who between them know everyone in district!) and no one had lost a galah so we knew he was ours to keep. Had someone said they had lost one, we would have of course returned him. Even if you find a tame, talking bird and don't advertise, a word to local vet / council / rspca or whoever is right in your area is the right thing to do, and if the owner is really looking paths are bound to cross. Unfortunately some people do not realise the love people have for their pets, and any true pet lover would do anything to reunite a lost pet with their owner. Fingers crossed for you Laraine that your boy is found xx |
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Post by Laraine on Apr 21, 2011 14:03:11 GMT 10
I think it is stealing if someone catches a bird and there are signs around everywhere and in the local paper. I guess its a different matter if there is no advertising, so the excuse is that no one knows where it belongs. I just hope that if someone has him that he gets the attention that he loves.
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Post by anzac on Apr 21, 2011 15:10:13 GMT 10
I stop and read all the flayers in our local area for what ever pet is missing and think how sad it is for the lost animal alone out there or with strangers and the poor owners as well It would be a mean hearted person that deliberately kept some-one's precious pet  |
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Post by twr on Apr 21, 2011 16:17:29 GMT 10
I think if anyone finds a bird, even if they keep it in the meantime, they should at least advise the local pound, vets & and bird forums so that all know a lost bird has been found. Maybe in the forums, you don't describe the bird. Let anyone claiming it do that, so you know if you have the right person. Also, read The Lost adds & keep your eye out for flyers. Someone advertising might be advertising for their lost bird in the wrong area / direction. I have heard of this before, where an owner is looking in a 10 or 15km radius but the bird has managed to go further than the owner thought possible, or they are looking in the wrong direction. So I don't think you can think because you don't see an add, that no-one is looking for it. I also think you should take the bird to a vet or pound to have it scanned for a microchip. You don't have to hand it in, just asked for it to be scanned & if there is no chip, take it back home. I don't expect the finder to do more than that. I don't expect them to advertise, but I do hope they do this much. All I need is for the micro chip to be scanned & any one of my birds could be reunited with me. I have strong feelings about this, because I nearly lost Butch when he escaped out an open door. I was actually telling the women at my work how upset I was on the weekend after I'd nearly lost Butch. Though she knew I was upset, she had no qualms telling me she wasn't going to try any method I mentioned. She believed there was no moral problem with keeping a tame bird. She said it would kill her if she ever had her dog not returned to her, because the dog was her baby. I asked why did my heartache at losing a pet bird have less value than her heartache at losing a pet dog. She said "it's just a bird". Grrrrr Sorry if I hijacked your thread Loraine. I'll get off my soap box now. Ps. Gypsy, pls don't think I'm aiming this at you. Im not  I know you would have returned Wally if you could have located his owner Wally is a lucky bird to have found you. |
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Post by gypsy on Apr 21, 2011 21:25:22 GMT 10
Ps. Gypsy, pls don't think I'm aiming this at you. Im not I know you would have returned Wally if you could have located his owner Wally is a lucky bird to have found you. No problems - The truth is Wally is the 4th baby galah that we have tried to save from the cats and dog over the years, as we have hundreds of galah's around here BUT this time I found this forum and quietly read everything I could to make sure we could help him and it did  I am in a spot though, I feel guilty that I have 'taken a bird from the wild' when I didn't take him, he was lost, and muddled, walking up the driveway in the dark while we were sitting on the verandah watching the storm, and if we had not been sitting out the dog would have made quick work of him He still can not fly just sort of jumps/glides down from heights so perhaps he was also hurt when he found us. We didn't handle him, just provided safe warm spot and food but, well, he decided to love us and we love him I'm also sorry Laraine for 'hijacking' your thread, with all my heart I hope your boy finds his way home to you safe and sound |
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Post by twr on Apr 21, 2011 22:05:01 GMT 10
Ps. Gypsy, pls don't think I'm aiming this at you. Im not I know you would have returned Wally if you could have located his owner Wally is a lucky bird to have found you. No problems - The truth is Wally is the 4th baby galah that we have tried to save from the cats and dog over the years, as we have hundreds of galah's around here BUT this time I found this forum and quietly read everything I could to make sure we could help him and it did I am in a spot though, I feel guilty that I have 'taken a bird from the wild' when I didn't take him, he was lost, and muddled, walking up the driveway in the dark while we were sitting on the verandah watching the storm, and if we had not been sitting out the dog would have made quick work of him He still can not fly just sort of jumps/glides down from heights so perhaps he was also hurt when he found us. We didn't handle him, just provided safe warm spot and food but, well, he decided to love us and we love him Don't be silly. Why would you feel guilty for rescuing this baby? He cannot fly, was lost & had no birdie parents to care for him & being wild, no human parents either. Would he have lived without you? I don't think so! Now if you had captured a fully functional wild bird, you'd have something to be guilty about. That's not what happened. I'd say Wally is a very lucky fid to have found you |
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Post by gypsy on Apr 21, 2011 22:35:11 GMT 10
Thanks Robyn, I know he wouldn't have survived, and we did tell the fuel guy and shop that he had found us, just in case he was someones baby. Hearing him call out to the wild birds makes me sad sometimes tho  But then I think well, he is far better fed, showered, entertained and come winter a lot warmer than his 'cousins' |
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Post by Laraine on May 2, 2011 10:18:08 GMT 10
I had a positive sighting of my bird yesterday at Wattle Grove which is about 10 kms from my place. He has been hanging around this park for about 10 days, I went there but didn't spot him but will continue to go. I will also saturate the area with signs as I only put 1 up there. Fingers crossed.
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Post by twr on May 2, 2011 15:33:17 GMT 10
Laraine, I've been thinking of you. I'm so pleased to be reading this positive news. The people who saw him, are they ones you trust enough to ask that they try to call him to them, if they spot him again?
I will keep everything crossed that you have even better news for us soon.
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Post by anzac on May 2, 2011 16:48:01 GMT 10
A step in the right direction I hope, fingers crossed for both of you.
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Post by Laraine on May 3, 2011 15:38:17 GMT 10
Unfortunately the lady who rang is away for a week, but if I haven't found him by next Sunday, I'll ring her and see if she will let me know when he is there.
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Post by twr on May 3, 2011 18:46:17 GMT 10
I wish I lived there. I built a house at Wattle Grove a long time ago & I was going to live in it, but ended up marrying & selling it.
That's bad timing that the lady is away for a week.
Still, if you put lots of flyers up near that park, someone else may call.
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Post by Laraine on May 4, 2011 12:46:42 GMT 10
I have been out to the park 4 times now and haven't spotted him but have put lots of signs up, its very frustrating. When the lady comes home on Sunday, hopefully she will let me know if he comes back.
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Post by meandem on May 5, 2011 7:57:58 GMT 10
Don't stop looking, it is still early days. I hope that you find your special man soon!
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Post by Laraine on May 5, 2011 10:02:31 GMT 10
He was spotted back where he was first sighted in Liverpool yesterday. He is really doing my head in.  |
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Post by flossy on May 5, 2011 11:06:48 GMT 10
Sorry it's been so hard on you Laraine....I wish there was an easy way to deal with this but sadly there isn't.
Did he have a partner? Maybe put her in a cage and take her with you and they might call each other? That's how I recaptured my Blue Quaker male on the weekend......I was amazed it worked, but it did thankfully.......
It's so hard to know what their next move is. He must be just looking for you.....and feel so isolated....poor guy.
Goodluck and keep us posted.....
Ann-Maree
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Post by twr on May 7, 2011 10:11:37 GMT 10
he is keeping you on the move. Sorry this is so hard on you.
Flossy, you had an escape? Glad you got him back.
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Post by flossy on May 7, 2011 10:31:27 GMT 10
Flossy, you had an escape? Glad you got him back.[/quote]
Yessss....we were changing the birds from suspendeds to aviaries. I'm sick of suspendeds...lol...and I said to the hubby.....let them out in the aviary.....but did he listen? Noooo......we had our little blue quaker man fly straight up into the tree....(he was using a net...but arghhhhhh)
So after an hour or so, he landed on my son's truck out the front, my hubby said No way will we get him...
Pfft...men! I got his partner in a cage, and some peanuts, walked up to him......let him see her......fed him a couple of nuts....told hubby to walk over slowly and to listen to me.....when I said NOW! he grabbed the little bugger....and we put them back in the aviary! phew.....
They are fantastic breeders....so we were really lucky!!
Pays to build up a certain relationship with your birds.....breeders or not...they all respond to human interaction.
NOW my hubby believes me when I tell him what I've been doing with the birds....he was gobsmacked....lol!
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I know you would have returned Wally if you could have located his owner 
But then I think well, he is far better fed, showered, entertained and come winter a lot warmer than his 'cousins' 
