Help with Budgies

[fischer]

Hi Everyone, I need advice on sexing coloured Budgies, I.E. Lutino's and Albino's. I can see some difference in the cere,
but I don't know if they mean Hen or Cockbird.
Hope someone can help, TONY.

[Smiley]

Hi Fisher,

Blue for boys white for girls...how old are they as well...White type have you the standed ones or english budgies.

Natalie

[fischer]

Hi Natalie,
They are all over six months old, and are all Australian Budgie's.
As to the cere, Iv'e just had a look and I can only see one that
looks Blue, no white one's, the rest are a sort of pinkish brown,
which I would think normally means a hen but the odds would
be against that, as there are 20 or so.
Ive been keeping Bird's for over 40 years, mostly Finch and
Parrots, as well as some Budgies but never the Whites and Lutinos.
Many thanks Tony

[AussieBirds]

The cere on the male budgies will be Blue and the hen will be brown, thats on coloured birds, Lutino's and Albinos are a different story and a little more difficult. The male birds will have a pinky coloured cere and the hen will have a darker colour in this area, I stress that this is only in Albino's and Lutino's.

[shadow=green,left,300]John[/shadow]

[fischer]

Hi John,

Many thanks, that explains why the Lutinos and Albinos
cere looks much the same. I will catch them in the next few days and have a go at sexing them, want to put about 10 pairs
in an aviary.

Tony

[AussieBirds]

An old trick with Budgies Tony is to let them bite your finger, not the part near the nail that hurts ;D, the one that bites the hardest is almost always the hen.

[shadow=red,left,300]John[/shadow]

[fischer]

Hi John,

Same rule for African Lovebirds, the hens bite more than
the cockbirds, and bite a lot harder than Budgies, they usually manage to find the quick near the nail every time.

Thanks again, Tony

[AussieBirds]

Yes Tony I have found that out many times with my Love Birds, much to my regret, and i have the scars to prove it

[shadow=red,left,300]John[/shadow]

[fischer]

Hi John,
What type of Budgies do you breed, English or Aussie?
I'm also interested in getting some new blood in my mask's, do you keep normal green's?

I want to put something in Introductions, is new thread
the right link?

Thanks Tony

[chickabee]

Oh my god...you guys are cracking me up....after reading these posts about male and female budgie sexing and that the female bites harder than the male, all I could picture in my mind was every finger bitten after sexing 20 budgies ......lol lmao
I now its true that a female bites more but if you have a lot of budgie.....geeeeeee thats a lot of bitten fingers...

Deb

ah ah ah ah ah ah ah .........god I'm still laughing....sorry

[AussieBirds]

fischer said:

Hi John,
What type of Budgies do you breed, English or Aussie?
I'm also interested in getting some new blood in my mask's, do you keep normal green's?

I want to put something in Introductions, is new thread
the right link?

Thanks Tony

Yes Tony if you log into Introductions and the new thread that will allow you to post a complete new thread.

I used to have over 100 breeding budgies Deb so I know what you mean.

I have Australian budgies Tony but i will be introducing new blood into the aviary shortly. I am lacking in size with the budgies at the moment, they make good pets and I sell a lot as pets but i would like bigger birds.

The Love birds I have are a mixture of Mask and Fischer the mask I have are, once again, a mixture, I do have normal green mask I also have blue and yellow mask.

[glow=red,2,300]John[/glow]

[lovemytiels]

Hi John, I have quite a few budgies as these are what i started off with. I had a lot of lutinos & could never sex them & always ended up pairing male to male. No wonder i didn't get ver far with getting any babies lol. Anyway some one told me a little trick that around breeding seson the females tail is slightly tured up & this was the only way i could sex then aprt from being bitten, then i would know it was a female . This has worked for me. Have yoy ever heard of this or is it one of those so called wives tell. Cheers Anna

[AussieBirds]

I never rule out anything Anna especially with budgies. I have a mate that can tell you all the little habits that male and female get up to and you would never notice the habit unless you were told about it. Budgies are fascinating little buggers and i guess they really are my first love in birds. ;D

[shadow=red,left,300]John[/shadow]

[fischer]

Hi Deb,

Iv'e been re reading these post's and I guess they would sound pretty funny, but if you think they are funny, listen to this little tale, It happened to me a few months ago.

I was catching up some Lovebirds for sexing prior to the nesting season. It's long been a habit of mine to net 2 or 3 birds at a time, if I can, saves time and stress on the birds, on this sweep I caught 2 birds and was just about to transfer them
to a carry box when the one in my right hand started to try to chew the end of my thumb off.
I was in a bit of a catch22 situation as I had a bird in each
hand and the net between my knees, not wanting to let either bird go I was trying to open the carry box door with the toe of my boot. The little bugger in my right hand was really starting to enjoy her work by now and was changeing the angle of her beak slightly to inflict maximum pain.
Being male, and stubborn, I still didn't want to let them both go but I couldn't get the box open with my toe, so finally
admitting defeat I let the bird in my left hand go and dropped the net from between my knees, Still hopeing to hold onto the bird in my right hand and get it in the box.
She, of course, was just as stubborn and didn't want any thing to do with the box, so renewed her attack with even more vigor, it was really starting to hurt now so I decided enough is enough and opened my hand, she still didn't want to give up the fight and bit even harder.
I started to flap my hand gently but this little bugger held on like a bloody mud crab, I had to pry her beak apart to get her off, she flew to the nearest perch and I swear she looked straight at me with a smirk on her face.
It's just as well I have no near neighbours as the swearing was getting bluer and bluer while this was happening, I wear welding gloves when I handle this bird now !!!!!

Hope this gives you a laugh.

Tony

[hillcresttiels]

Great story Fischer thats saves the embarresment i have when people come over to pick up a bird and i'm wearing gloves i think the last to laugh at me was ParrotPotential was it Kim or was it Steve..LOL anyway I feel better now cheers Frank

[parrotpotential]

Hey Tony, we call Lovebirds 'Pitbulls with feathers' here, lol.

[parrotpotential]

Frank, yep that was us, lol. Steve rarely wears gloves when catching birds these days. I think he's got the knack of it or something because I'm not so brave when it comes to the aviary birds, lol.

[Smiley]

Thanks Tony,
Yes it did make me laught ;D...I guest I am one of then lucky ones..Dont normal get bitten..I have handle a lot of birds.Big and small...I would just call it luck...One day I will get mine I know ..

Thanks for a laugh Tony.

Natalie

[fischer]

Hey Frank and Kim.

Peachface, Yes I would agree are real biters,
but I don't normally have a problem with Mask's, etc.
I probably wouldn't have kept that particular bird if she wasn't such a good breeder.
My reward for this will be a cagefull of these little
monsters. Glad the story started your day well Frank.

Cheers Tony

[senn]

great story there. :-D

gotta agree re peaches being psycho.

i kept a pair (as in 2 birds, not as in mating pair) for 3 years.

the normal one was almost sleepy in how it interacted. would never even do anything much.

the pastel-face however, was a real demon. he/she would attack any hands that came near the cage.

luckily i had them in a rat cage that was huge. i could slip the top off the bottom using a catch at each end. so cleaning was easy. the birds could play on the kitchen floor in the top whilst i removed the bottom to clean. when it came replacement time i would put the bottom on the floor and slide the top back up over it. as the birds liked height they never sat on the kitchen floor whilst this was going on.

eventually, however, the pastel decided to try learning to open the door. needless to say i then had to learn how to devise locking systems that would even fool houdini let alone a bird with beak.

it was just astounding how 1 bird could contrast with the other so much.

john,

good to see your first love is your budgies. sometimes breeders go through fads ive noticed. and it becomes like a game of bigger and "better" birds. so its nice to see someone sticking with their first love.