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Post by hillcresttiels on Mar 8, 2005 17:07:42 GMT 10
Lmao ;D I just love handreared hens they are so petite and politicallly correct ..  By the way both Platinums and Lutinos have the redish tinge to their eyes. ;D Frank |
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Post by billspets on Mar 8, 2005 17:16:22 GMT 10
frank to get a platinum from the combination then the male would have to be lutino -platinum wouldent it sorry i am just tring to work the genetics out ;D ;D ;D ;D and is it possable for a male lutino to be split to platinum  regards bill |
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Post by josiedownunda on Mar 8, 2005 17:21:43 GMT 10
Hi Bill
For a male to be lutino he has to have one lutino gene on each of his 2 chromosomes. As it happens each gene has a particular spot it occupies and isn't found anywhere else. Platinum and lutino occupy that same spot. So for a bird to be lutino that spot is already taken up by lutino on each chromosome so there is nowhere for a platinum gene to be. Likewise if he is a platino he has a platinum on one chromosome and a lutino on the other so he cannot be visually lutino. Does that make any sense? I understand it so that means you should!!LOL
Jo-Anne
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Post by kim1 on Mar 8, 2005 17:45:08 GMT 10
Is Montya plain platinum or platinum pied? He or she looks just like my Maxy who is platinum pied and Monty appears to have yellow on his legs and patches of pale yellow on his body in the other photos, I'm confused, I'm not much up on teil genetics, also what does a plain platinum look like cause I'm suspecting the male I was sold as a platinum may not be, I wish my camera was working so I could show you a photo, but he has quite dark platinum ( like milky coffee with a bit of cinnamon colour in it) colouring on his body and this forms very distinct fish scale patterns on his wings, he has a yellow head just like a normal male, is this right?
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Post by billspets on Mar 8, 2005 17:47:13 GMT 10
so going on what you have said there Jo-Anne where did the platinum cromosone come from as monty is platinum wich mean that the father has to be carring the gean but he is a lutino sorry for confusing people
regards
bill
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Post by hillcresttiels on Mar 8, 2005 17:52:00 GMT 10
Hey Kim there are different shades of Platinum but the one i hate the most is the one where irresponsible breeders have combined with cinnamon making these birds very hard to distinguish however a normal platinum does carry yellow tones with platinum flight feathers!..  where a Platinum pied will have yellow flight feathers or a combination of both depending how heavy or light the pied is  frank |
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Post by kim1 on Mar 8, 2005 17:58:41 GMT 10
Ok got it, than Maxy is a platinum pied for sure, but I would suspect his parents had cinnamon in them as his siter Lilly isn't the same soft platinum colour but more a dirty golden coffee colour, and as my breeding male came from the same breeder as Max and Lilly's parents I think he may have cinnamon in him also, I had wondered why Maxy had such a beautifull soft colouring and the others had a more harsh dirty colour.
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Post by hillcresttiels on Mar 8, 2005 18:00:13 GMT 10
Hey bill Monty dad is a Platinum-Lutino (Platino) thats where your getting confused even though Kjjl says hey was Lutino the breeder probably wasn't aware that the sire was a Lutino-Platinum he has to be he to produce a Platinum hen!If the sire partner was a platinum then Monty could have been either sex cheers ;D
Frank
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Post by billspets on Mar 8, 2005 18:03:04 GMT 10
thanks for that frank
man it getsa confusing
regards
bill
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Post by pollyparrot on Mar 8, 2005 18:43:31 GMT 10
hey jo you know if u keep getting birds after a while u can say when hubby asks is that a new bird u just say "no not that old thing have had that for ages " ok i do admit its easier when u have an avairy full might be hey mabe u could say "it followed me home" but it plain to see with my expert eyes thats you are hooked there is no hope for you now welcome to the ranks of " birdaholic" hey do u think hubby will notice when another baby lorikeet turns up this week in ollys cage u see i just cant bear to see olly lonely |
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Post by kjjl on Mar 9, 2005 7:54:19 GMT 10
wow...you guys have been busy..i'm totally confused what you're going on about now lol.... but i realise monty is a girl..i love calling him baby boy though  oh well... i have hubby almost convinced of a new baby!!! yays for me!!!! |
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Post by josiedownunda on Mar 9, 2005 7:58:05 GMT 10
Sorry about all the confusion. I guess it is confusing without soem knowledge on genetics. I guess all you need to know is the colour and the sex. I would say Monty is a platinum and he is a she! Hows that??LOL
Jo-Anne
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Post by kjjl on Mar 9, 2005 8:06:07 GMT 10
Yes...that is perfect...keep it simple stupid hahhaha
i've never had a girl bird before...i was telling hubby how they can lay eggs with no partner around.... i will freak out if this happens LOL
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By the way both Platinums and Lutinos have the redish tinge to their eyes. ;D
where a Platinum pied will have yellow flight feathers or a combination of both depending how heavy or light the pied is 
oh well...